Improv

Bump.

$40 for the upgrade for present owners of 2.10 would be fair. If you had been gradually raising your price over several versions, that's one thing. But you cannot blame people for reacting when you suddenly want to change the full selling price to $200 (correct price?). Or $100 for an upgrade. Those of us that paid $80 or so a few months or more ago have been supporting you up till now, so to suddenly say that the price of owning 3DC will now be more than double what we paid originally. It's not our fault if you underpriced 3DC in the beginning. And please do not try and give us the sad story about your long hours and having to support a family. So what? That makes you no better and no worse than the rest of us. We all have to work long hours these days and many of us have families to support. You can charge what you want-that's your choice. Our choice is to move on and support other products that don't overcharge. If you need more money, either market another software product as well as 3DC or else go work for someone else and work on 3DC part-time. It's entirely up to you. No hard feelings, it's just business. BTW-I am sick of talking about this issue and won't be replying to anyone in this thread besides Andrew-depending on his decision. Cheers

Well said, jaf. :-) Since you already have ZBrush, I'd save your money for ZBrush upgrades. Which is what I'm doing with MB1-->MB2 upgrade coming out soon.

And I can quite understand your annoyance. Look, I realize that English is not Andrew's first language. But when you are dealing and competing in an international market, you must be able to effectively communicate with your users and potential users. No matter how many new features you stuff into a program, it does not look good when you start charging more for upgrades than the original purchase price that many people here got 3DC for-$80 or so. When a dev does that, it just looks like trapping and ripping off the customer. Glad I bought into Mudbox! ;-)

So according to your calculations, present 3DC owners will pay $100 ($200-$120=$80+$20=$100 ) And what is that $20 for on the end ? If that's correct, no thanks, he can keep it. YMMV,etc

Thread bump to keep the thread visible. So-Andrew, could you PLEASE clarify your pricing policy by answering questions in this thread? Thanks

Ditto for me. At this point, I have no idea what he just said. All I know is that if it costs $120 (or even $100) to upgrade, it's time to move on.

So when 3.0 comes out, current owners will have to pay what? $20 to upgrade? $120 to upgrade? Or are you counting their original purchase of 3DC + another $20= 3DC 3.00 upgrade?

Throw in some carmel popcorn and you got the Grudge Match of the Century!

And here's the latest Mudbox 2 video (August 11): http://area.autodesk.com/mudbox_preview#siggraph

Here are the Vue 6 Pro Import/Export formats: http://www.e-onsoftware.com/products/vue/v..._studio/?page=6 Import/Export * Static Poser 4, 5 & 6 scene import. * Support for Poser 5 & 6 dynamic clothes and hair. * Animated Poser 4, 5 & 6 scene import. * Compatible with Cornucopia3D cost-effective copy-protected content. * NEW! Import options dialog to control imported object position and sizing. * NEW! When loading objects, option to automatically drop them to the ground. * NEW! 2D Import: BMP, BUM, DEM, GIF, HDR, Jpeg, Pict, PNG, TGA, Tiff. * NEW! Vector data import: Postscript and Illustrator up to 3.2. * Textured model imports as: 3DS, COB, DEM, DXF, LWO, OBJ, PZ3, PZZ, RAW, SHD. * 2D Export: Tiff, TGA, Pict, BMP, GIF, Jpeg, PNG, BUM, DEM. * Object exports: Only terrains, with textures. * NEW! Animation export: QT MOV, QTVR, AVI, Mpeg 1 & 2, independent frames. * Automatic re-importing of externally modified texture maps and 3D objects. Now just match those with the ones that 3D Coat uses for Import/Export.

Thanks, Juan, good to know you're not having problems. :-)

Thanks for the reply, yukon. It's not that I find Houdini overly complex, just that I recognize that it's going to take some time to get even half competent at using it. So I would also like to have a program that is good but fairly quick to get up to speed on like Silo. I tried Carerra, but didn't care for it. To me, both Houdini and Silo2 just feel right, and painting and detailing in 3D Coat is the icing on the cake. :-)

Thanks, Roger and Yukon. I have True Space 7.5, but they just got bought out by Microsoft a while ago for MS Virtual Earth Project. That and the endless delays waiting for an update have made me look around for alternatives. I bought Houdini Apprentice HD, but it's a complex program, and I do like the Silo2 demo.

Is anyone using Silo2 along with 3D Coat? I would really like to find out if there are any import/export problems between the two softwares. Thanks