Advanced Member David Walters Posted October 28, 2008 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 No alpha update for four days, I can feel it - something BIG is coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Shpagin Posted October 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 No alpha update for four days, I can feel it - something BIG is coming 2 of that 4 days was holidays Also, some experiments, many support queries... Now I am making transpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member David Walters Posted October 28, 2008 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 2 of that 4 days was holidays Also, some experiments, many support queries... Now I am making transpose. heh, I didn't want to put any pressure on you by the way, sorry! We've got enough to be playing with already, take some more holidays :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Shpagin Posted October 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 heh, I didn't want to put any pressure on you by the way, sorry!We've got enough to be playing with already, take some more holidays :lol: Feel free to ask or expect anything :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member renderdemon Posted October 28, 2008 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 With transpose,will be possible to scale parts of model ? I hope yes,it could make life much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Shpagin Posted October 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 With transpose,will be possible to scale parts of model ?I hope yes,it could make life much easier. Of course. Transpose will be done tomorrow (I hope, most of work is done) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member renderdemon Posted October 28, 2008 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalSan Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 excellent news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Juan Carlos Montes Posted October 28, 2008 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Great news , I'll look forward to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member tayotain Posted October 28, 2008 Member Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Cant wait ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member jwiede Posted October 29, 2008 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Would be nice if we could get a more recent OSX version soon, we're getting a bit behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member TOXE Posted October 29, 2008 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Yes, it would be nice, but also if lately i'm very busy with my job i'll find the time to test it as always. -TOXE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Shpagin Posted October 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Unable to make update today. Transpose is still too raw. This week was not easy, several complex support queries... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member akira Posted October 29, 2008 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Unable to make update today. Transpose is still too raw.This week was not easy, several complex support queries... Take your time, Andrew. Hope you have got enough time for taking a nap. akira. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Rodney Brett Posted October 29, 2008 Member Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Wow! Transpose already. That should be really nice. Forgive me if this has already been answered, but are there plans for profile curves? Do we just use the alphas to get specific brush tips? -Rodney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Maximus3D Posted October 29, 2008 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 There's a lot of focus on sculpting and those tools now, not to sound negative or something but i think what's more important for 3DC v3 is the ability to work with low/medium poly models without having to go through the step of subdiving a imported mesh up to millions of polys just to paint textures on it. I wanna have the ability to work with my models as they come, meaning they should be possible to import at their relative low polycount with UV's retained, then to be textured in 3DC by me, and finally to be exported back out again without a 10x increase in polycount on the model. This i think is way more important than these sculpting stuff, at the moment i find it somewhat difficult to put 3DC into my production pipeline because it wanna subdivide the models all the time. / Magnus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member BluEgo Posted October 29, 2008 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 There's a lot of focus on sculpting and those tools now, not to sound negative or something but i think what's more important for 3DC v3 is the ability to work with low/medium poly models without having to go through the step of subdiving a imported mesh up to millions of polys just to paint textures on it. I wanna have the ability to work with my models as they come, meaning they should be possible to import at their relative low polycount with UV's retained, then to be textured in 3DC by me, and finally to be exported back out again without a 10x increase in polycount on the model. This i think is way more important than these sculpting stuff, at the moment i find it somewhat difficult to put 3DC into my production pipeline because it wanna subdivide the models all the time./ Magnus Sorry Maximus3D, but this is not the right place to talk about texturing skills of 3dcoat, cause here is introduced only voxel sculpt stuff. And anyway, Andrew already told that in the future there will be the option you arer searching, but he cannot do all at the same time, he is still human ( I hope ) IMO when someone starts a task, he should finish it before beginning something new, and voxel sculpt is the current task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Maximus3D Posted October 29, 2008 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Umm.. ok, so this is not the place to ask. Then where is the place to ask ? i'm afraid that sculpting will take all the time he has for a long time to come and other things will be pushed off to the side and eventually forgotten. It seems everyone else wants sculpting in 3DC, and they want it right now! i don't care that much about sculpting in 3DC as i have other tools for that. Sorry but no i still think focus is a bit off the target now, that will probably be only my personal opinion and no one elses.. / Magnus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Shpagin Posted October 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 There's a lot of focus on sculpting and those tools now, not to sound negative or something but i think what's more important for 3DC v3 is the ability to work with low/medium poly models without having to go through the step of subdiving a imported mesh up to millions of polys just to paint textures on it. I wanna have the ability to work with my models as they come, meaning they should be possible to import at their relative low polycount with UV's retained, then to be textured in 3DC by me, and finally to be exported back out again without a 10x increase in polycount on the model. This i think is way more important than these sculpting stuff, at the moment i find it somewhat difficult to put 3DC into my production pipeline because it wanna subdivide the models all the time./ Magnus I know how is it important and I will make low poly painting anyway. I will not forget it because it is MOST wanted feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taros Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I know how is it important and I will make low poly painting anyway. I will not forget it because it is MOST wanted feature. I agree, this feature is very important. I am using 3DC primarily for painting textures for finished models, modeled in third party tools. The volume skulpting tools are very nice and really impressive. But there are not only needed monsters, animals and humans in the model world... Thanx Andrew. Take the time for coding, you need. Regards from germany Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Mantis Posted October 30, 2008 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 But there are not only needed monsters, animals and humans in the model world... That's why 3DCoat is here I'm modelling organic creatures everyday, but that's not what I am waiting the most from 3DCoat and its voxel modeling. If you take a look at what can be done with volumetric sculpting and Mechanical stuff, that's pretty amazing. And I really hope that 3DCoat will bring new tools for sculpting mechanical stuff easily and launch the same revolution that Zbrush was for organic shape. But the organic side is a must have feature and the first step to reach. After that 3DCoat will reach the sky and even beyond. Maybe I'm dreaming but why not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member ldzywsj Posted October 30, 2008 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Maybe in 3dc 4.0 Andrew will add mechanical stuff modeling,it only one step to that from retopo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member JimB Posted October 30, 2008 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I agree, this feature is very important. I am using 3DC primarily for painting textures for finished models, modeled in third party tools.The volume skulpting tools are very nice and really impressive. But there are not only needed monsters, animals and humans in the model world... Thanx Andrew. Take the time for coding, you need. Regards from germany Chris I have the same hopes and am holding my breathe and hoping it will come in 3DC 3.0 or earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member The Lorax Posted October 30, 2008 Member Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I'm using ALPHA34 WIN and getting consistent crashes - "OUT OF MEMORY" when reloading files. 1. Go to VOXEL Mode and sculpt. Even simple sphere. 2. Use "to polygons" 3. Go to RETOPO mode - retopo or not 4. Save the file at any point 5. Attempt to reload and get the above error Any ideas? Known issue? Thanks The Lorax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Shpagin Posted October 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I'm using ALPHA34 WIN and getting consistent crashes - "OUT OF MEMORY" when reloading files.1. Go to VOXEL Mode and sculpt. Even simple sphere. 2. Use "to polygons" 3. Go to RETOPO mode - retopo or not 4. Save the file at any point 5. Attempt to reload and get the above error Any ideas? Known issue? Thanks The Lorax It will be fixed in today's update. If you have lost something in this way I can recover it (send file me to support). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member polyxo Posted October 30, 2008 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Umm.. ok, so this is not the place to ask. Then where is the place to ask ? i'm afraid that sculpting will take all the time he has for a long time to come and other things will be pushed off to the side and eventually forgotten. It seems everyone else wants sculpting in 3DC, and they want it right now! i don't care that much about sculpting in 3DC as i have other tools for that. Sorry but no i still think focus is a bit off the target now, that will probably be only my personal opinion and no one elses../ Magnus There's already quite a few capable yet affordable 3D-painting applications in the market. With Voxel sculpting however Andrew makes the capabilties of very expensive Voxel-Modeling programs (with equally expensive haptic controllers) available for a broader userbase (who will soon even be able to use low-price haptic input divices). While this move might change the focus the program originally had when it started off - I believe that it makes a lot more of sense than concentrating on getting the number one of the - say 10 - 3d-painting program under 1000. Holger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Shpagin Posted October 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Updated to V35. Changes: 1) Transpose tool 2) Auto-simplification in "To polygones" 3) Bugfixes OSX version comes tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member rimasson Posted October 30, 2008 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I just discovered that the sphere tool, with Cubic interpolation on, used with the 'draw with curve' stroke mode is great : you can draw smooth curves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member renderdemon Posted October 30, 2008 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I'm trying transpose on my 18 millions models,it crashes. I don't think is a transpose fault,as it happens also when: A)you try to move big parts of the models. B)you try to use "to poligones" function on them So,for others people I think the upper limits for mesh are smaller than 18 millions,probably something like 12/14. Trying with smaller models transpose works well,but I have difficoulties in understandiing how works the different options,I find difficoult selecting only some parts to use for transpose.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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