philnolan3d Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 Worked on this for a few hours last night and a few hours today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Pimpmymonkey Posted April 8, 2009 Advanced Member Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 Worked on this for a few hours last night and a few hours today. Hi Phil, Nice....I really like his saggy jowls. P. Monk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted April 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 Thank you. It's based on photos, so that's what the real guy has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted April 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 I think I'm calling modeling done. This is 22.5 mil. triangles. Fairly large image to show detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Shpagin Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Nice model, but it seems that wrinkles are too rare. Too "young" skin between wrinkles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted April 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Thanks Andrew. I believe I copied all of the wrinkles from the photo, maybe I'll try to emphasize the smaller ones more. I'll post the photo when I get home shortly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted April 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Oops, knew I would forget to attach this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member psyborgue Posted April 10, 2009 Advanced Member Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Phil. Do you have a tablet? If not, using the snake tool with the worm profile works well (used subtractively with control key)... then smooth those over lightly. Curve tool with "sharp" profile (and sharp brush) in paint mode works well too if you don't have a mouse... again with control key pressed. Lastly, elephant skin material works well to fill in the details. Just rotate the material to match the wrinkles you already have and fill in the between areas. It's how I made the old witch here (a combination of the three above techinques): http://www.3d-coat.com/forum/index.php?s=&...ost&p=15979 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted April 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Phil. Do you have a tablet? If not, using the snake tool with the worm profile works well (used subtractively with control key)... then smooth those over lightly.Curve tool with "sharp" profile (and sharp brush) in paint mode works well too if you don't have a mouse... again with control key pressed. Lastly, elephant skin material works well to fill in the details. Just rotate the material to match the wrinkles you already have and fill in the between areas. It's how I made the old witch here (a combination of the three above techinques): http://www.3d-coat.com/forum/index.php?s=&...ost&p=15979 Yes I have a tablet, actually I have several. The one I used for this is an Intuos 3 6x8. Interesting thoughts on the curve tool. I was just drawing each wrinkle in by hand with the Build tool inverted, Pinching it, then using the Clay Brush to build up just a little on either side, then smoothing that out. After I was finished with the main, big wrinkles I filled in some areas with the elephant skin, then went over the whole thing with the StoneDirt01 mask. I hadn't seen the witch model before, but personally I feel like it has too many wrinkles and they seem too evenly dispersed / sized. If you look at the reference photos of my old man (mine are 3x bigger) you can see there are some areas where he has no wrinkles at all, others are very fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor Tony Nemo Posted April 11, 2009 Contributor Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Yes I have a tablet, actually I have several. The one I used for this is an Intuos 3 6x8. Interesting thoughts on the curve tool. I was just drawing each wrinkle in by hand with the Build tool inverted, Pinching it, then using the Clay Brush to build up just a little on either side, then smoothing that out. After I was finished with the main, big wrinkles I filled in some areas with the elephant skin, then went over the whole thing with the StoneDirt01 mask. I hadn't seen the witch model before, but personally I feel like it has too many wrinkles and they seem too evenly dispersed / sized. If you look at the reference photos of my old man (mine are 3x bigger) you can see there are some areas where he has no wrinkles at all, others are very fine. Yeah, the "elephant skin" was over kill. But "pores" might make a contribution. Fine work so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted April 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member psyborgue Posted April 11, 2009 Advanced Member Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 some areas where he has no wrinkles at all, others are very fine. The magnify/reduce tool in paint mode might help with that. got a recent screenshot? I'd like to see your work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted April 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 The magnify/reduce tool in paint mode might help with that.got a recent screenshot? I'd like to see your work. I'm not really sure why I need help with that, I've already done it. As for a screenshot, that last one I posted in post #4 is the most recent one. Now I'm starting to work on retopology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member psyborgue Posted April 11, 2009 Advanced Member Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 I'm not really sure why I need help with that I think I misunderstood what he was saying regarding elephant skin... nevermind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor Tony Nemo Posted April 11, 2009 Contributor Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 I think I misunderstood what he was saying regarding elephant skin... nevermind My "elephant skin" comment was in reference to Pyborque's "Old Witch" (link above). It was well done but for (IMO) too much "elephant skin", especially on places like the bridge of the nose, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member psyborgue Posted April 11, 2009 Advanced Member Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 My "elephant skin" comment was in reference to Pyborque's "Old Witch" (link above). It was well done but for (IMO) too much "elephant skin", especially on places like the bridge of the nose, etc. You might be right about that. My guide was this image for the wrinkles (another lady for the shape of the face), but the bridge is relatively low on wrinkles. I will probaly go back and use the magnify/reduce tool on some areas. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted April 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 Retopology mostly done, still a few clean up tweaks to go. I'm not really thrilled with the 5 stars on the neck, but there was too much geometry for my liking and that was the fastest way to reduce it. 1622 polys now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor Tony Nemo Posted April 12, 2009 Contributor Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 Retopology mostly done, still a few clean up tweaks to go. I'm not really thrilled with the 5 stars on the neck, but there was too much geometry for my liking and that was the fastest way to reduce it.1622 polys now. A shirt collar will deal with the "stars". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted April 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 A shirt collar will deal with the "stars". Ha ha yes, I used a couple of similar "stars" on top of the head, thinking the hair would hide it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted May 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Started skin texturing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted May 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 More Skin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted May 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 OK check out this little video. I made a couple of moles on his forehead. Do they look realistic? They were kind of a pain so I don't want to do that a dozen times or more if it doesn't look right. http://screencast.com/t/cRO1RA5CQmX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor Tony Nemo Posted May 3, 2009 Contributor Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 OK check out this little video. I made a couple of moles on his forehead. Do they look realistic? They were kind of a pain so I don't want to do that a dozen times or more if it doesn't look right.http://screencast.com/t/cRO1RA5CQmX Looks slightly malignant. You might have it looked at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted May 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Thanks, I think. :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted May 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Added moles and other blemishes, painted the spec, and added some stubble. I think painting is just about done unless someone has any thoughts on changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor Tony Nemo Posted May 4, 2009 Contributor Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Added moles and other blemishes, painted the spec, and added some stubble. I think painting is just about done unless someone has any thoughts on changes. All that is lacking now are those wild eyebrow, nose and ear hairs. Maybe Andrew can set up a means of rendering splines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted May 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Haha I think I'll be doing hair in LightWave with FiberFX. Right now I have to repaint the spec, somehow it all disappeared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor tree321 Posted May 4, 2009 Contributor Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Old man take a look at my life I'm a lot like you I need someone to love me the whole day through Ah, one look in my eyes and you can tell that's true Neil Young Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted May 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Great now I have Neil Young stuck in my head. :lol: BTW this old man has been posted to SpinQuad's twitter page: http://twitter.com/spinquad3d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted May 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Did a turn around render with the textures if you get YouTube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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