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If I may, I emailed Linux support at the end of November (2019) and Sergii kindly answered me back. I shared some of the worries expressed in this thread and other private conversations with fellow professionals outside this forums and, in a nutshell, the situation is, as I was told, this: A lot has changed in the code. And he's working non-stop to catch up for the Mac version to be ready. Once that port is done, Linux is next. He assumed that around the time 3DCoat 2020.xx is out we'll find the builds popping out. Also, from then, serial keys would be for all systems. So there you go. It's going to take some time, but apparently it's not an abandoned project. I don't worry particularly that the Mac version comes first: the port from OSX to Linux presumably has to be relatively straight forward. The perceived opacity around this facts seems a bit unnecessary to me because it's perfectly understandable that sometimes things take time in order to move forward. The team shared most of this information here and there but an easy to find official post in a thread would do wonders for current and potential customers' confidence. All in all, I hope they can pull it out in the not so distant future. In the end it may very well be for the best. Meanwhile, since WINE is not an option here, I hardly ever use 3DCoat. But the old build still works and it's being used occasionally. Not every job requires the new tools. It's the bugs and limitations long time gone in more current builds that frustrate me. Substance on the other side is fantastic in Linux, and in an Ubuntu (or derivative) it's not at all difficult to set up (I can help if someone needs me to.) I hope I didn't add to the confusion. Being a professional, knowing where we are is important to me and I got what seemed an honest response. I hope when the time comes I can still make use of 3DCoat in my workflow, I really liked this software.

So, will the refactoring of the code help in any way the progress of the Linux build? Is there any progress on that front? I'd love to try all that goodness that's been developed lately without rebooting (and thus breaking my workflow.) Thanks in advance for any answer I might get. :-)

Hi, any news on the Linux development progress?

Thanks for the update, Sergyi.

Can we have any update on the progress of the Linux builds, please? I'd love to try out some of the new great features added since the last build available.

That's reassuring. Thank you for the explanation, SERGYI.

The end of native Linux builds is a concern here. We use 3DCoat because it was native, before other alternatives restricted to Win/Mac builds. Even if not as fast as in Windows, we would be using 3DCoat. Not so with WINE, for a variety of reasons. Let's hope the vague "they will look to resume them [the native Linux builds] at some point" won't take long. I'm a bit baffled at the studio(s) that suggested using WINE, and quite surprised to see Pilgway accepting that as a real option for professionals. We'll keep using the last builds available for Linux. Later, we might have to part ways. A pity, really, if that day comes, specially now that Allegorithmic is dead as a company and the future of their products is uncertain, as other forum members said in this very thread already. Anyways, we'll see.

So we now should use WINE to run 3DCoat on Linux? I don't think that is ideal, albeit for now it's just for beta testing builds rather than stable production ones. I really hope the new Linux native beta and future stable builds won't be too long ahead. Thanks for the answer and clarification anyway, Sergyi.

Can we have a GNU/Linux build to play with, pretty please? It's been a while. :-)

Linux link is wrong. It downloads the 4.7.37 version. Manually type this in the browser's address bar (or copy and paste) and it downloads the new beta: http://www.3d-coat.com/~sergyi/3D-CoatV4-8-01.tar.gz Just clicking won't do it. Edit: OK, this one works: http://www.3d-coat.com/~sergyi/3D-CoatV4-8-01.tar.gz Please 3DCoat team, fix the links. By the way, it's not the first time this happens. Maybe you should automate the link generation?

Thank you for the Linux build!

Great! Thanks for taking the time to answer here. I know things are hard and look simpler from afar. I'll check back in a few days. If there's something we can do to ease the process feel free to ask. Thanks again.

Any progress on the Linux builds? I can understand that things take time, but checking every so often here just to see if there's a build it's getting tiresome. And then, one could miss the long awaited build if sayed out for months. So knowing if something is moving would be appreciated. It's a pity Linux uses can't test as much or get new beta tools to tinker with. It feels like there's no proper system in place to adapt and compile Linux builds, as if there was some sort of part-time off-site job. It doesn't look as a priority for sure to keep all versions on par. I can understand that while trying new tools, and refining them, having to re-compile over and over again for a different platform would seem a waste of time. But we also pay for the license, and one would think that end users won't find that a waste at all. Not to mention the possibility of some Linux specific bugs appearing so much later; that would amount to even more wasted time (for the users mainly). Surely there could be a compromise in the "waste" of developers vs users' time. I'm trying to make a point to justify my question, but not to sound harsh or impatient. I hope I didn't fail completely. :-)

E-mail sent, too. Thanks Sergyi!