Henry Townshend

Thanks again! Appreciated. I think it might be worth pointing the devs to maybe rename the default template to attract more users, as this functionality inside Coat is absolutely insane and the most easy way Ive seen this implemented in any software. Maybe there could be added an additional template called "Seamless Texture Sculpting" that uses the Translation you described. And the current "3x3 Tile" one could be renamed in "3x3 - Instanced Tiling" or something, so that new users don't get confused and are immediately offered a template for the "Translation" approach without manual setup.

Fantastic! That works. Thanks a lot! I'm using a scaled up plane or box to get it really seamless, as the 3x3 template still comes with the unwelcome gaps when you need a continuous surface.

I was looking forward to sculpt tiling textures in 3d coat, ever since I caught a glimpse on the "Tile box 3x3" option in the Surface Sculpt Welcome screen. I was under the impression that it will just work as it says. Unfortunately it is not. You can not paint across instances, which is a huge oversight imo. In addition, the template setup has the tiles overlapping, causing seams between them when you stencil project something. It is really just an instance tiling rather than the true Tiles Painting you get when choosing the Per Pixel Painting Tiling 3x3 template from the Welcome Screen, which is how it is supposed/someone would expect it to work. (I do a lot of hand painting color only tiling textures in Krita, and it caught me by surprise that 3D Coat doesn't allow seamless tiling sculpting, even tho the template says so). A system like in Krita (Wrap Around Mode) or what Blender offers, would be needed for this to be a usable system actually for anything else that isn't a surface that consists of several individual elements like Bricks or Wooden planks. I feel in the age of Nanite, for gaming textures/modular piece creation, this would be a very important thing to have to be able to utilize 3D Coats fantastic Sculpting tools to create tiling geo pieces or displacement maps.

Bump, 10 years later. I was looking forward to sculpt tiling textures in 3d coat, ever since I caught a glimpse on the "Tile box 3x3" option in the Surface Sculpt Welcome screen. I was under the impression that it will just work as it says. Unfortunately it is not. You can not paint across instances, which is a huge oversight imo. In addition, the template setup has the tiles overlapping, causing seams between them when you stencil project something. It is really just an instance tiling rather than the true Tiles Painting you get when choosing the Per Pixel Painting Tiling 3x3 template from the welcome screen, which is how it is supposed/someone would expect it to work. (I do a lot of hand painting color only tiling textures in Krita, and it caught me by surprise what 3D Coat doesn't allow seamless tiling sculpting, even tho the template says so). A system like in Krita (Wrap Around Mode) or what Blender offers, would be needed for this to be a usable system actually for anything else that isn't a surface that consist of several individual elements like Bricks or Wooden planks.

Any news on this? In Particular regarding "Move Infinite Depth"?

And with the point being? I don't understand what you mean. My post was about the current inability to fill something with "non-freeze" in 3D Coat, which is an oversight. I do not understand what filling with eraser has to do with it, or adds to the point in any way.

Thanks for the update. I am not entirely sure what you mean. If I use "Fill with Eraser", that doesn't erase any Freezing. Could you elaborate what you mean by "Resumed"?

A HUGE thanks from the heart for the implementation of B+W masks. They are working really great now since 2024.14, and having the additional advanced functionality already in, like converting existing layers to masks, is very welcome! It's a fantastic feeling to finally be able to combine 3D Coats extremely good paint room tools with the robustness of masks. Crossing fingers for non destructive adjustments to come.

Thx much! I just now realized what it does, as I never clicked "Ok" before: It sends a pic to a non-existing-anymore 404 website So I guess it'd be save to remove. Couple of times I lost progress again in the meantime due to it causing crashing.

Thx for having a look and the info. Jeah, seems most reasonable to remove it to not interfere with certain shortcut combos. But of course that would be sad for people using it already and being used to it. I cross fingers it either gets removed or deactivateable again.

This is the most workflow breaking default key combo I have ever witnessed. Esp for people who use a ton of hotkeys, Zbrush style, like Shift+Ctrl+Alt+Whatever Key in combination, and working fast, it is almost inevitable to hit these. I wouldn't mind, if the program wouldn't crash guaranteed every single time I accidentally hit it, and often causing me to lose progress, even tho I already save frequently, incrementally, which is Shift+Ctrl+Alt+S for me. I looked into the Help menu and couldn't find what you described @AbnRanger. Could you maybe hint me to how to disable this function in 2024+ ? I browsed the Preferences, but nothing caught my eye so far.

Same Issue here. Wrote Andrew mutliple times about it. Baking/Cage display gets ignored/skipped most of the time. Models come out fine , always, but textures are empty. Very sad this feature is not reliable 90% of the time. I tried everything, no repro pattern I could hold on to. No reliable workarounds. It makes this otherwise amazing function eat away time and nerves.

Same here. I'm a bit surprised by this. I recall 3D Coat usually being super fluid while painting. I'm on 2024.12. It seems there is a performance degration somewhen since the last versions. It's not really pleasant anymore to paint.

Jeah I also figured he said "they will appear in .06" but that probably doesn't mean fully functional, yet, right. The groundwork seems well done tho. It should work great once it does, as it has the basic needs in there already. And I hope the undo instability/confusion will get fixed too once it's official.

Could someone hint me to how this works? I add a mask to a layer via the Photoshop like mask symbol. It appears. For some reason, it is already filled in the little preview icon. I try to paint B or W into the mask, nothing happens. Maybe I am overlooking something, but currently at least in this first version, the mask functionality doesn't seem to work as expected. I tried with Opacity, which it doesn't rely on. I tried with Eraser, which works, it erases the mask, but also erases the layer too, sadly. Also, it is extremely buggy with undo. The UI itself and the ability to enable disable is already great. But if I'm not doing something severely wrong, the system is not yet usable. Please have a look at this vid: 2024-02-14 11-53-58.mp4

Aww, thx. That's sad. Painting Vertex Colors onto regular UV mapped, per pixel painted meshes (e.g. mapped onto Trim Sheets, Atlases etc.) is a very common age old technique in Game Art. For instance, before texture memory was as affordable as today, color variation or visual breakup like dirt and grime could be stored in Vertex Colors directly at authoring time in an external application.. What you're refering to is also valid of course, and more contemporary. Usually you can paint the colors in engine, right, but that's not what I want to do in this case, hence why I need to paint them myself. I'm working on a game where we don't use a realistic art style, otherwise the way you described would be 100% suitable and I wouldn't even bother painting Vertex Colors outside the engine for a more realistic artstyled PBR scenario. I would of course do it way more non destructive and modular inside the engine directly, and drive material blends with it. But, we use Vertex Colors to add more subtle color variation to meshes, to have an additional color layer. I know I could technically do the same with a second UV set, but our shader only supports to add Vertex Color into the "mix", which is perfect for not having to author and store another texture, but simply splat color onto the vertices. We wanna add a lot of hue variation, which is why I paint "painterly" onto the Vertices of the already UV mapped and textured meshes. (Something not really possible inside any game engine I know of, as most are just for very rudimentary RGB painting to drive interporlations, so no smoothing, no hue jitter, etc) I can do this in Blender no problem, but I would have heavily preferred doing it inside 3D Coat. However, I think it wouldn't be worth a feature request. Thanks much for your time!

Thanks again, and glad you agree, so I'm not nuts :P Unfortunately, for filling only parts of a geo on a paint object with multiple separate geometric parts, all those options are not exactly helpful, tho all great stuff. It would be great if we could simply "Fill with Unfreeze", or have that 0 option do exactly that. I think having the zero option would be the easier one for devs. Or maybe a tickbox "fill invert freeze", whatever would be the lowest hanging fruit, would be great. It makes sense right? cause if you are offered the ability to fill smth. with freeze, the opposite should also exist.

Thanks for the answer! Interesting, I don't perceive this as logical at all. What I would expect is that "Fill with 0 Freeze" would actually fill the mesh with 0 freeze, meaning that it inverts the effect of "Freeze with 1" , by "unfreezing" it. So I would expect a freeze of 0.5, to add a mask with opacity of 50%, and a Freeze of 1.0, to add 100% freeze, and, a freeze fill of 0, adding 0%, meaning that part then should be unmasked again. Why should it be logical that fill with zero freeze simply adds no freeze? Then this option is kinda redundant, right? If it simply does nothing. If I don't wanna fill any area with Freeze, I simply don't click it. I wouldn't go and click on objects to fill them with 0 freeze if that does nothing. Unless I'm overlooking something, What I want to achieve is to simply "fill unfreezed", meaning I want to exclude parts of the already frozen objects from freeze by filling it with non freezed areas. And I thought this option of 0 should do exactly that. If you know any other way, without having to manually unpaint the freeze, and accidentally hit other objects in perimeter by trying that, I'd be thankful.

Thanks for the answer! To specify, as said, I want to use the VCs inside engine in a shader, so I don't need to bake them to texture, nor do I need to import the model with VCs already on it, cause I do want to paint them inside 3D Coat. What I want to achieve is actually pretty simple: * I model a model inside Blender, unwrap that model there * Then I want to import that model into 3D Coat, just to give it Vertex Coloring pass, but without losing it's UV's Result I'm after: A UV Mapped mesh which's UV map stays intact coming into 3D Coat, which I can then Vertex Paint onto, and then export afterwards with: * Intact, same UVs (no auto re-wrap or anything, but keep the same UV coordinates it was imported with) * Vertex Color Information on it that I painted on and then can export with the mesh I think this is pretty common for Game Environment art, so there's gotta be a straight forward way to do it.

Hi, I'm currently trying to import a UV mapped game res mesh to add some vertex colors onto to use those inside a shader in game. I can't seem to do this successfully without losing the meshes UV's. If I import for PerPixel Painting, I can not Vertex Paint. If I import for Vertex Paint, the Mesh seem to be converted or at least it's UV's neglected on import. I tried doing this in Blender, which works ok'ish, but feels so unnecessarily overcomplicated and convoluted, and lacking in terms of painting, filling and masking/hiding options compared to 3D Coat, that it's hard wanting to do it there.. plus I have all my custom fav presets in Coat with which I would like to do the painting with (not to mention it's lightyears more fun painting anything in 3D Coat than in Blender due to it's fabulous brush engine). Would appreciate any help, as I think this should be possible, and I just likely don't know how.

Absolutely awesome news! Can't wait! And I too also hope non destructive-adjustments come in soon. Thanks so much! Stoked to see that Paint Room progress is happening. And you even tackle B+W masks first and foremost. Just awesome.

Any news on non-destructive adjustments?

+1 , same for paint layers. Pretty standard functionality. 3D Coat one of the most amazing, if not the most amazing artistic program ever created, and, has a ton of features and functions other programs lack and not even remotely offer, even industry standard software. However, it still lacks fundamentals like these in 2024.