Advanced Member worldcrafter Posted October 27, 2014 Advanced Member Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) Hi, how do you guys make rocky worn surfaces with layered bits? My goal is the style of layered rocky surfaces on the bellow Also achieving texturing like this is also quite hard to do in 3d coat. ide like to here some suggestion on getting this dirty ancient effect My (rather poor) attempt is bellow, its just nowhere near as good. He really defines and shows off his layers using specularity and highlight on them, but thats not really relevant, i just want layer in the first place. Edited October 27, 2014 by worldcrafter Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/16845-rock-sculpting-the-layers/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javis Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Hey! There are so many ways you could do it. Using Stencils or Stamps of a texture you want to emulate would be the easiest Hand sculpting with the Freeze tool then sculpting areas you want higher/lower than the frozen selection I'd probably use a combination of those two for the quickest creation of something like that. Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/16845-rock-sculpting-the-layers/#findComment-114341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member worldcrafter Posted October 28, 2014 Author Advanced Member Share Posted October 28, 2014 Any other techniques? my rock layers don't end up clean/crisp like the example, they are less sharply defined and the Less/more in cavity painting isn't very crisp looking. A 2 minute Video, showing the different techniques would be awesome, perhaps ill make one when i have a good repertoire of stony surface techniques. Stony surfaces are essential to so many environments, and it would be a shame to do them sloppily. Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/16845-rock-sculpting-the-layers/#findComment-114368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlosan Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Import image as Mesh helps ? ----------------------------------- some tuts Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/16845-rock-sculpting-the-layers/#findComment-114372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member worldcrafter Posted October 28, 2014 Author Advanced Member Share Posted October 28, 2014 One thing about the example which I really like, is that the parts that are are deepest and most eroded are blackened and scumified. also the browning and harder veins which refused to weather away make it look cool. Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/16845-rock-sculpting-the-layers/#findComment-114380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javis Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Any other techniques? my rock layers don't end up clean/crisp like the example, they are less sharply defined and the Less/more in cavity painting isn't very crisp looking. A 2 minute Video, showing the different techniques would be awesome, perhaps ill make one when i have a good repertoire of stony surface techniques. Stony surfaces are essential to so many environments, and it would be a shame to do them sloppily. I thought you were sculpting. Which is what I would do. I'd sculpt the rock then bake that sculpt to a primitive, then paint it by hand and probably also use some procedurals in Modo or dDo for adding some other effects and randomness (grime in nooks, wear on edges, etc.). Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/16845-rock-sculpting-the-layers/#findComment-114382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javis Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Also while texture painting in 3DC, you could also use a stamp that has a texture that is close. Make sure that your texture resolution is high enough to capture the details you're after. Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/16845-rock-sculpting-the-layers/#findComment-114399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member worldcrafter Posted October 29, 2014 Author Advanced Member Share Posted October 29, 2014 Using the freez function., i could paint the lower areas of my sculpt a darker color this only works for flat rocky surfaces though, and i still don't have the result i want. Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/16845-rock-sculpting-the-layers/#findComment-114407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlosan Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Hi More in Cavity function could help ? the sculpt looks ok Menu view -> relief onlie -------------------------- the top surface is very glossy, only borders must be need more layers adding moss -green color- and dirty terrain -red color- only in low cavity zones to use photo references could help too http://hhh316.deviantart.com/art/Seamless-Rock-Face-Texture-271675185 http://galleryhip.com/seamless-moss-rock-texture.html http://fairiegoodmother.deviantart.com/art/Moss-Covered-Rock-Texture-2-91930332 Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/16845-rock-sculpting-the-layers/#findComment-114408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member worldcrafter Posted October 29, 2014 Author Advanced Member Share Posted October 29, 2014 (edited) more in cavity gets all the small cavity's, and deep bits of noise darkened, I want large areas to be darkened as-well (where the stone has been weathered) EDIT: i Havant bothered with edges yet, as they'r not really what I'm focusing on at the mo, i need to get that surface dealt with first. Edited October 29, 2014 by worldcrafter Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/16845-rock-sculpting-the-layers/#findComment-114410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlosan Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Paint layers mask is useful for big areas Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/16845-rock-sculpting-the-layers/#findComment-114412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member worldcrafter Posted October 30, 2014 Author Advanced Member Share Posted October 30, 2014 MY latest attempt has improved a bit, but is still lacking in those defined crisp layers, which means it could be mistaken for weatherd concrete rather than stone. Doe anyone have examples of old stones/rocks/surfaces made in 3dcoat? would be nice to see Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/16845-rock-sculpting-the-layers/#findComment-114467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlosan Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/16845-rock-sculpting-the-layers/#findComment-114476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member worldcrafter Posted October 30, 2014 Author Advanced Member Share Posted October 30, 2014 Ide like to see your examples; the people who have advice ( a picture or something). BTW, that last video has the worst rock i have ever seen.. and the first doesn't really say anything about layers in rock,(correct me if im wrong but he gets some not so good and quite uncontrolled rock layering by using allot of depth with the scrape brush) Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/16845-rock-sculpting-the-layers/#findComment-114482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlosan Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 another links here http://www.polycount.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1775074&postcount=1 all are personal ways to perform the task, every artist have their own workflow to achieve the results. 1 Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/16845-rock-sculpting-the-layers/#findComment-114485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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