Contributor ajz3d Posted September 10, 2015 Contributor Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Let me re phrase , its broken on complex hard surface pieces , or even better , on complex hard surface pieces when guides applied (even 2 main guides) it messes everything up. On my rat , its auto retopo and i really find the result amazing , but on hard surface....... http://3d-coat.com/forum/index.php?app=galleryℑ=985 Ha By increasing the polys for example from 2000 to 4000 then it works as expected. Then it works on 3000 as well and to 2000 and even 1000!!! But on the first try when i set 2000 it messes everything up. Tried it even in default sphere , of course each one needs a different value to do this , but once it works it works with lower values as well. Ah that's probably it. I've never tried Autopo on hard surface objects. Well, I did once on stone letters, which I guess may be classified as hard surface objects, but I didn't use guides. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor ajz3d Posted September 10, 2015 Contributor Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 And another bug: After applying symmetry, one half of my model ended up like each quad was encompassed with UV seams (or was physically disconnected from the others). (if I hover with my mouse over one of the quads, it shows as individual island in the UV preview window). But the retopo group doesn't have any seams marked and the surface is continuous (I double-checked it). I tried deleting all seams, but it did not change a thing. Strange. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor Michaelgdrs Posted September 10, 2015 Contributor Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Strange indeed. You had symmetry on before applying symmetry from the retopo left side icons right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor ajz3d Posted September 10, 2015 Contributor Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) Of course.--Darn it's happening all the time. I thought once I reload the scene the problem will be gone. I thought it occurs on random basis, but no.Out of curiosity I unwrapped the retopo group (I cleared all UV seams beforehand) and here's what I got:So 3D-Coat has created those UV seams for each one of those quads, even though the seams are not visible in the viewport (and are not erasable).--I guess I'll have to mirror the retopo mesh in some other software. Check this out: This time seams (marked behind-the-scenes by 3D-Coat) are visible. But I still cannot unmark nor remove them with Clear Seams tool. -- Yup, mirroring in Nvil and reimporting to 3D-Coat did the trick. Edited September 10, 2015 by ajz3d 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member shape3d Posted September 10, 2015 Member Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 I have a strange crash bug, it happened two times. After the crash, when I load any saved file in 4.5.16 then it crashes again. Only when I open the old 4.5 beta, load a file, close it and try it again with 4.5.16 then it works again. CU Ansgar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member dimitribastos Posted September 10, 2015 Advanced Member Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 I think there is no need to have that "default snake" texture loaded when using the Spline Image tool. Would not be better to just leave all blanked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Member DeadlyAccurate Posted September 11, 2015 New Member Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Is this where I'm supposed to report bugs? If not, I apologize. 1st, this one has happened since after 4.5 BETA 14: The texture editor is messed up in the paint room. There are jagged edges around the UVs that make it impossible to see where the texture actually is. You can see details with screenshots in this thread: http://3d-coat.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=18305 2nd, the Quad tool in the retopo room causes me massive lag in version (Win) 4.5.16 with a high poly mesh. When I reverted back to BETA 14 (because of the above issue), there's no lag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlosan Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Please report bugs on our bugtracker site http://3d-coat.com/mantis/my_view_page.php Ty ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor ajz3d Posted September 13, 2015 Contributor Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 3D-Coat 4.5.16 keeps resetting my custom Paint Room layout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor Michaelgdrs Posted September 13, 2015 Contributor Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Hey , greetings to all. Is there an every other commend in 3d coat. For example delete every other edge loop. I am quite sure that there is , there is no way that such an important commend is missing. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputable Contributor AbnRanger Posted September 13, 2015 Reputable Contributor Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Hey , greetings to all. Is there an every other commend in 3d coat. For example delete every other edge loop. I am quite sure that there is , there is no way that such an important commend is missing. Thank you. I've been asking for this for a long, long, long time. In 3ds Max, it's called DOT LOOP/RING. Could help reduce Auto retopo meshes very quickly. It's been listed on Mantis (along with a handful of other retopo requests....like holding the SHIFT key with the TRANSFORM tool will extrude edges on the fly) for ages. Maybe Raul can add these soon, since he is working on the Retopo room. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor Michaelgdrs Posted September 13, 2015 Contributor Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Shocked to know this Ranger. Thank you very much for the enlightenment. Raul can you kindly add those as AbnRanger requested? We can work a lot faster with those additions. I am cleaning retopo models for the last 3 hours straight on. Auto retopo works well if we go on the higher side of the polys asked , but then it needs a clean up for sure in order to reduce them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor ajz3d Posted September 13, 2015 Contributor Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) Paint Room: Undo fails a lot when brushing in Stamp Drag Mode Edited September 13, 2015 by ajz3d 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor Michaelgdrs Posted September 13, 2015 Contributor Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Confirmed !!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member stusutcliffe Posted September 14, 2015 Advanced Member Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) Vox Layer..... Did there used to be a "Vox extrude" also? I am sure it was underneath vox layer, I cant find it ...is it called something else now? I just want to indent the surface ,but I am having to make a vox layer and subtract it,which does not always work properly. Capsule Primitive.... I tried altering "Cap 1 and "Cap 2" to a more pointy profile, but they stay half round spherical when applied. beta 15. ( just checked the help files....Vox extrude does exist......not going crazy......) Edited September 14, 2015 by stusutcliffe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member wilson66 Posted September 14, 2015 Advanced Member Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) Vox Layer..... Did there used to be a "Vox extrude" also? I am sure it was underneath vox layer, I cant find it ...is it called something else now? I just want to indent the surface ,but I am having to make a vox layer and subtract it,which does not always work properly. 'Vox extrude' button is just above 'vox layer' in the left side toolbar and directly to the left of the 'vox layer' button in the SPACE bar menu (Beta 16). Don't know what could be going on if its not there in your version. Edited September 14, 2015 by wilson66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member stusutcliffe Posted September 14, 2015 Advanced Member Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) Thanks for the reply Mr 66 . MMM a mystery , maybe I should get B16 and take a look. I have already worked around it. But I would like it back. Edit Not in B16....... Edited September 14, 2015 by stusutcliffe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor Tony Nemo Posted September 14, 2015 Contributor Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Hmmnn! Version 16 seems not to like something about your setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member stusutcliffe Posted September 14, 2015 Advanced Member Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) yup..... I dont think i have used this tool for ages ,so I do not know when it vanished. Edited September 14, 2015 by stusutcliffe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member BurrMan Posted September 14, 2015 Advanced Member Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 It looks like you are in surface mode? If you go to voxel mode, then it will be there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor ajz3d Posted September 14, 2015 Contributor Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 It looks like you are in surface mode? If you go to voxel mode, then it will be there... It's available in both: the surface and voxel mode. Something must be wrong with Stu's settings. In this kind of situations I make a backup of the whole 3DC preferences folder and start deleting stuff from it while checking if it helped. Maybe start from clearing the Temp folder. Then options.xml if it doesn't help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputable Contributor AbnRanger Posted September 14, 2015 Reputable Contributor Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 It looks like you are in surface mode? If you go to voxel mode, then it will be there... It is supposed to work in Surface mode, too. He just needs to delete all the .xml files in his MyDocs/3D-Coat4.5 directory > fresh install. One of those is probably buggered up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputable Contributor AbnRanger Posted September 14, 2015 Reputable Contributor Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 ....but before you do that, try somethign simple, first. RMB-Click over a tool in the OBJECTS section and choose SHOW ALL TOOL IN SECTION. It may have gotten hidden somehow, by accident. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member stusutcliffe Posted September 15, 2015 Advanced Member Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Ha Ha ha cough cough choke.....and the hat tip goes to Mr Ranger. Yup that was it !!!! Thank you. And thanks to everyone who piped up, I knew I could count on you guys! I had a vague memory that you could hide items that you didnt need ....but the memory only returned after you said it. I tend to leave all my software at default settings cos its easier for me just to get back to that if something goes wrong. Though I did a reset on the interface initially but that does not seem to be connected to this. I dont think I would have hid that purposely, because it is one of the more useful tools. Thanks again.......now I feel dumber than I did yesterday... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor Tony Nemo Posted September 15, 2015 Contributor Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 As the saying goes, "There is no such thing as a stupid question". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member TongueDar Posted September 16, 2015 Member Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 (edited) I'm having a problem with how 3DC is importing meshes, it's modifying them in the UV room, but in the Paint room the mesh appears fine. I'm using 4.5.16(CUDA)(DX64). I've tried importing OBJ and FBX low-poly meshes that I created in Modo 901 and it modifies them just enough that when I export them back to Modo, things no longer match up. I've tried a few different options on import and none of them have made a difference. I hope I'm just being ignorant to some option, as I absoslutely prefer setting up my UVs and painting in 3D Coat. Here's an image showing some of the changes I'm encountering: *** *** *** And one other issue I'm encountering, is that the eraser tool stops working, or will only erase part of a layer. I've been using 3D Coat since version 3.x, so I'm familiar with the Depth, Color, and Glossy buttons for the various tools. I noticed that this problem happens after using Smart Materials. I can make it mess up every time just by doing the following steps: -1- Setup a new Paint UV Mapped Mesh -2- Choose the Cube and leave everything at default -3- Select the Metal Forged Smart Material -4- Fill Layer 1 with the fill-layer option to make the cube look like metal -5- Create a new layer and fill it with 0_oldschool_Paint -6- Now for me at least, the eraser tool no longer functions if at all, not until I restart. ( On my own model, I'd have to save, restart then reload to erase any mistakes when this happened. ) Here's my specs if it helps: 3D Coat 4.5.16(CUDA)(DX64) Windows 10 i7 5820k GTX 970 32 Gigs of ram Edited September 16, 2015 by TongueDar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member BurrMan Posted September 16, 2015 Advanced Member Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 Yup, mine was missing the tool from the surface mode also..... My new status in 3dc had me give that incorrect answer. Thanks, mine is listed now also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Vipera Posted September 16, 2015 Advanced Member Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 (edited) And one other issue I'm encountering, is that the eraser tool stops working, or will only erase part of a layer. I've been using 3D Coat since version 3.x, so I'm familiar with the Depth, Color, and Glossy buttons for the various tools. I noticed that this problem happens after using Smart Materials. I can make it mess up every time just by doing the following steps: -1- Setup a new Paint UV Mapped Mesh -2- Choose the Cube and leave everything at default -3- Select the Metal Forged Smart Material -4- Fill Layer 1 with the fill-layer option to make the cube look like metal -5- Create a new layer and fill it with 0_oldschool_Paint -6- Now for me at least, the eraser tool no longer functions if at all, not until I restart. ( On my own model, I'd have to save, restart then reload to erase any mistakes when this happened. ) I do confirm. I have strange artifacts when I try to erase parts of 0_oldschool_Paint layer after reproducing all of your steps. Edited September 16, 2015 by Vipera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member TongueDar Posted September 17, 2015 Member Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Pleas disregard my first comment about the mesh shifting. I found the keep source position export option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor ajz3d Posted September 18, 2015 Contributor Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) 4.5.16. Undo in the Paint Room fails constantly for many tools. Random Flip X randomly gets disabled (other Brush Options are probably affected too). Ocassionally Alphas window, which I invoke temporarily with a hotkey, instead of appearing under the cursor appears in the right upper corner of 3D-Coat's window. Then if I invoke it again it does appear under the cursor, but I need to close it with the "x" button (it won't disappear when the cursor leaves it). -- If you have many objects in the Paint Room and attempt to use fill bucket tool to fill a specific object, then when you open the list of your objects, scroll down one screen and select an item, an object above will be selected. This means that the last object on the list cannot be selected at all. And by the way Andrew. Can you add alphanumeric sorting to Paint Objects list? Edited September 18, 2015 by ajz3d 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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