Carlosan Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Site What is Krita? Krita is a FREE digital painting and illustration application. Krita offers CMYK support, HDR painting, perspective grids, dockers, filters, painting assistants, and many other features you would expect. Check out the gallery to see what other artists have done with Krita 2 Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/17220-krita-free-open-source-paint-app/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Aleksey Posted January 15, 2015 Advanced Member Share Posted January 15, 2015 wow, that looks really nice! thanks for sharing! Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/17220-krita-free-open-source-paint-app/#findComment-117422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Grimm Posted January 15, 2015 Advanced Member Share Posted January 15, 2015 I have used Krita for years now. They have a version for Linux and Windows (not sure about MacOS), and a really cool pie menu. Works really well with a tablet and I have gotten it to work in 3D-Coat as well. Very cool. Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/17220-krita-free-open-source-paint-app/#findComment-117423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member RabenWulf Posted January 15, 2015 Advanced Member Share Posted January 15, 2015 BTW this application works extremely well when linked to 3D Coat as an external editor. Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/17220-krita-free-open-source-paint-app/#findComment-117425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member spacepainter Posted January 16, 2015 Advanced Member Share Posted January 16, 2015 Hey! That's perfect! Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/17220-krita-free-open-source-paint-app/#findComment-117438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor BeatKitano Posted January 16, 2015 Contributor Share Posted January 16, 2015 Does it have a nice stabilization feature ? Proper blending (best one out there is Clip Studio Paint) and a brush engine capable of creating digital pen as well as nice simulation of traditional tools ? Nope. If yes I'm interested if not I'll stick to Clip Studio paint and imho those still using photoshop for illustration should definitely give it up and go to CSP. I used photoshop for nearly 20 years and I switched to CSP in the month after trying it... that should speak volume. 1 Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/17220-krita-free-open-source-paint-app/#findComment-117453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member RabenWulf Posted January 16, 2015 Advanced Member Share Posted January 16, 2015 Does it have a nice stabilization feature ? Proper blending (best one out there is Clip Studio Paint) and a brush engine capable of creating digital pen as well as nice simulation of traditional tools ? If yes I'm interested if not I'll stick to Clip Studio paint and imho those still using photoshop for illustration should definitely give it up and go to CSP. I used photoshop for nearly 20 years and I switched to CSP in the month after trying it... that should speak volume. That's like asking if 3d Coat has a layer system... =) Krita's Stabilization feature is great in my opinion. Pretty much like most 3d software, you get a tool options window (tab). When selecting a brush, a pull down menu appears in the tool options tab allowing for "Basic Smoothing, Weighted Smoothing, and Stabilizer". All function as they should and include sliders for additional settings. The brush engine is fairly advanced and you can find some great natural media brush packs online. Krita is extremely good and worth adopting into your pipeline, its only going to get more popular as time goes on. Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/17220-krita-free-open-source-paint-app/#findComment-117456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor BeatKitano Posted January 16, 2015 Contributor Share Posted January 16, 2015 The brush engine is still waaaay behind csp. Try it you'll see. Didn't find any "default" preset that does pencil as well as csp: It may be possible, I didn't use it long, but for a first try it's not convincing: Just as a precaution: I'm not an advertiser. I just stumbled upon this software and was really angry at adobe for providing such a poor tool for illustration while the competition was doing an awesome job at making them look ridiculous. 1 Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/17220-krita-free-open-source-paint-app/#findComment-117457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member RabenWulf Posted January 16, 2015 Advanced Member Share Posted January 16, 2015 The brush engine is still waaaay behind csp. Try it you'll see. Didn't find any "default" preset that does pencil as well as csp: For the best natural media brushes at the moment you either need to make your own or grab some user made ones. I think what you are seeing is a mix of unfamiliarity with the software and how it works as well as the fact that CSP is geared towards a certain kind of media and it does it very well. So it in part depends on what you need out of your software. Krita is far more vast in the art styles it can achieve, on top of that its the workflow that also stands out. It is extremely good with tablet based workflows, whether its scaling the brush, rotating the canvas (make sure openGL is on under configure krita), zooming, snapping..ect Its a very smooth process that doesnt require you to break concentration. For Pencil Brushes I recommend looking at: https://krita.org/item/the-muses-preset-pack/ http://www.davidrevoy.com/article180/ressource-krita-brushes http://www.davidrevoy.com/article238/ressource-krita-brushes-v5 http://meemodraws.deviantart.com/art/Krita-Brush-Pack-311306611 Among others.... 1 Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/17220-krita-free-open-source-paint-app/#findComment-117458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlosan Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 Krita 2.9 Beta 2 is Out! //edit Brushes and painting changelog: The anti-aliasing quality of thin lines has been improved greatly. The smudge brush was improved. The Flow option has finally been separated from opacity. Steps in the undo history can now be merged. The brush preset system was extended to make it possible to keep changes to a certain preset during a session, instead of resetting to the original preset on every brush preset switch. You can lock the size of the brush when switching between paint and erase mode, or have a separate size for each mode. New painting assistants for working with vanishing points and rulers. the line tool will use all sensors now! Rotation, speed, tilt, etc. There’s a sticky key available for accessing the straight line tool from the freehand brush (V). a delayed-stroke based stabilizer option was added for stroke smoothing the weighted smoothing and stabilizer have a ‘delay’ option now, which allows you to create a dead area around your cursor for extra sharp corners. a scalable distance option was added to the weighted stroke smoothing, so now the weight is relative to the zoom. Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/17220-krita-free-open-source-paint-app/#findComment-117459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor BeatKitano Posted January 16, 2015 Contributor Share Posted January 16, 2015 @RabenWulf Tried those presets, they look nicer but still feel off compared to csp (csp get you crisp details in your stroke while krita seems to "muddy" everything depending on brush size and document resolution.) You've got less control over the brush size (in csp you can fine tune the pressure per brush to get exactly the kind of reaction you want with a tablet). Even the line smoothing is not as clean. I mean if you get it up high it takes shap turns while in csp you get a nice interpolated curve. I don't do anime if that's what you're saying, while I agree with you csp is obviously geared toward manga/anime artists it's still a blast to use it for fine arts which don't even involve lines in the first place. Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/17220-krita-free-open-source-paint-app/#findComment-117460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member RabenWulf Posted January 16, 2015 Advanced Member Share Posted January 16, 2015 @RabenWulf Tried those presets, they look nicer but still feel off compared to csp (csp get you crisp details in your stroke while krita seems to "muddy" everything depending on brush size and document resolution.) You've got less control over the brush size (in csp you can fine tune the pressure per brush to get exactly the kind of reaction you want with a tablet). Even the line smoothing is not as clean. I mean if you get it up high it takes shap turns while in csp you get a nice interpolated curve. I don't do anime if that's what you're saying, while I agree with you csp is obviously geared toward manga/anime artists it's still a blast to use it for fine arts which don't even involve lines in the first place. Did you open up the brush editor and enable or tweak some of the behavior you expect from the brush? For example, sometimes people like an opacity or size tied to the pressure, some brushes intentionally have that toggled off. Just turning it on via the brush editor will allow for more. Additionally, lets hypothetically assume that for some reason the pencil effect is just something you like in krita, it would be like me not liking 3D Coat because its sculpt brush doesnt feel or behave exactly in the way I expect it to in say Zbrush. The option is then to either adapt so the new software adapts to new expectations or compare and contrast to see if what you gain is outweighs what is lost. In other words is a certain feel to the pencil brush the deciding factor in usage or are there other considerations. Either the pro outweighs the con or it doesnt. =) Anyway, see if you can get the effect you want with the brush editor, if not see if you can adapt or give up that feel in one app in favor of another. Krita is free regardless, so its not like you lose anything and if you have a copy of CSP/Manga studio, then its not like there will be any financial pressure on picking one or the other. On a side note some krita artist have shown off great pencil like sketches, so we know it can get results. Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/17220-krita-free-open-source-paint-app/#findComment-117478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlosan Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 Krita brush engine need work for sure There will be a third beta, and afterwards... the 2.9 release. We need to wait a little more to know the final result. Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/17220-krita-free-open-source-paint-app/#findComment-117488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor ajz3d Posted January 17, 2015 Contributor Share Posted January 17, 2015 (...) Clip Studio paint (...) Beat, what version of Clip Studio Paint do you recommend? Will I miss some features of the EX if I don't do Manga? Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/17220-krita-free-open-source-paint-app/#findComment-117530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor BeatKitano Posted January 17, 2015 Contributor Share Posted January 17, 2015 Why don't you see for yourself ? (I honestly didn't go for the ex version as I'm not a comic artist) Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/17220-krita-free-open-source-paint-app/#findComment-117547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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