3DCoat 2021 Open Beta test !

[Grimmy]

4 hours ago, Gorbatovsky said:

What Tool are we talking about?
You write - but it really feels very clunky (unusable in fact) for what should be a rapid building experience. 
Why is he bad?

Thank.

I'm talking about the extrude face tools. This brief video should highlight some of the issues. In The video I just try to extrude a few faces on a cube using the tools but pretty soon it turn disastrous and I dont think I'm dont much wrong...

Some of the problems I can instantly see in this short 90 second video and some other ones I found before..

• The tool switches to the rotate surface tool
• The tool gizmo axis does not update with the face selection
• Some tools move faces rather than extrude them
• Faces are unselectable in the smart extrude
• A second mesh seems to get created when I use smart extrude?!?
• Deselecting doesn't always work when clicking off/away from the model
• If I have all faces selected while I have the free move selected and click off screen (my other monitor) the objects moves to a random position in space sometimes VERY far from the original position.

Maybe its me that's doing something wrong, but I don't see any tutorials about this anywhere and I would have thought it should be fairly intuitive to use.

Here is a video of me  doing the same in Cinema4D. Its so simple. I don't need to hit enter each time to commit an extrude. I just let go of the mouse. Note that also in C4D I can also move,scale or rotate the face/s at anytime using the gizmo that's always there. If I were you, I'd just rip off this workflow as is. Its perfect.:)

 

 

 

Edited May 6, 2021 by Grimmy

[PoshIndie]

2 hours ago, PoshIndie said:

I am way too excited for this version of the application. My favorite addition is the low poly modeling room (Where I have been playing!). I hope transitioning between rooms is streamlined as well (Rather than treating them as separate applications, it would be nice to be able to transfer directly between them. Maybe you could before and I just never figured it out!).

An issue I found almost immediately in the Low Poly room:

Reproduction steps:
1: Create a default cube (Where it all begins)
2: Select 3 of the top faces (It was an accident, but whatever finds the edge cases, right?)
3: Rotate the selected faces (Toward the unselected face. Again... accident. Getting used to the tool, haha)
4: Use the Spine tool and pull the selected faces out a few times into a loop (Kind of like the top of a lock)
5: Try to undo it all.

Just noticed I was in an outdated Beta (B39. I got it from the main page announcement banner. Didn't know this thread had an updated one). Might still apply, but it did lose some cred now, haha.

[L'Ancien Regime]

Is there any way to bind a hotkey to Curves -> Delete all curves? It's the command I use the most on that menu.

Set coordinates and Delete all curves are the only commands on the Curves menu that don't seem to have that option.

 

Edited May 6, 2021 by L'Ancien Regime

[superman punch]

Hello, developers.

3Dcoat2021.B47
Rotate Around Last Draw Point is not working.

Please check.

[Gorbatovsky]

7 hours ago, Grimmy said:

I'm talking about the extrude face tools

Thanks for the video, I see errors.

[Gorbatovsky]

5 hours ago, L'Ancien Regime said:

Is there any way to bind a hotkey to Curves -> Delete all curves? It's the command I use the most on that menu.

Set coordinates and Delete all curves are the only commands on the Curves menu that don't seem to have that option.

You just need to select several curves and press the key Delete.

[L'Ancien Regime]

4 hours ago, Gorbatovsky said:

You just need to select several curves and press the key Delete.

Also, I've tried this both in 4.9.72 and also in  2021 B47 there's the option of creating  hotkeys for the various primitives (sphere, cube, ovoid etc). I can assign them but they don't stick. If I go to another room then return they've lost their hotkey settings.

 

[Silas Merlin]

1 hour ago, L'Ancien Regime said:

Also, I've tried this both in 4.9.72 and also in  2021 B47 there's the option of creating  hotkeys for the various primitives (sphere, cube, ovoid etc). I can assign them but they don't stick. If I go to another room then return they've lost their hotkey settings.

 

do you mean in the models panel for the sculpt room ? if yes, and if it is like in 4.9,  the panel needs to be showing the folder the primitive is on for the hotkey to work.
For example, if you have a hotkey for sphere in the default folder, but the greebles folder happens to be open, then the hotkey for sphere won't work until you reopen the default folder.

[L'Ancien Regime]

2 hours ago, Silas Merlin said:

do you mean in the models panel for the sculpt room ? if yes, and if it is like in 4.9,  the panel needs to be showing the folder the primitive is on for the hotkey to work.
For example, if you have a hotkey for sphere in the default folder, but the greebles folder happens to be open, then the hotkey for sphere won't work until you reopen the default folder.

 

Primitives panel in Sculpt Room. I can create that hotkey ALT + A and it works but if I move to the Paint room or any other setting and come back to the Sculpt Room  the assigned hot key is gone.

Edited May 7, 2021 by L'Ancien Regime

[Grimmy]

I create some blobs using the blob tool and I'm left with with large white lines that wont ever go away. I tried tried switching tools and switching rooms but the lines are always present. The lines around the created blob wont go either. Version B47

Edited May 8, 2021 by Grimmy

[Grimmy]

Would it ever be possible to add actual  transform positioning of lights in the render room rather than having to guess from light height and light angle?

Thanks

[Frimasson]

I hope that heavy mesh import will be improved in 3dc 2021. actually in surface sculpt mode, i can't import a 20 millions polys in Obj, Ply or in Stl without a crash. (out of meme error)
And I've got 64 go of ram

[AbnRanger]

3 hours ago, Grimmy said:

Would it ever be possible to add actual  transform positioning of lights in the render room rather than having to guess from light height and light angle?

Thanks

Yes. I have asked for that more than once and also for a Shadow Catching material

 

[L'Ancien Regime]

8 hours ago, Grimmy said:

Would it ever be possible to add actual  transform positioning of lights in the render room rather than having to guess from light height and light angle?

Thanks

I would love a lighting system like in Maya or at least Zbrush. It's actually essential for serious sculpting.

[Carlosan]

Is it in my installation, or is Retopo > commands submenu missing ?

 

[Yousung]

The sculpt layer sculpted on Layer 0
Can't it be erased with Erase SL brush?
When I try to erase on Layer 0 it erases a completely different layer.

Erase SL works fine for added layers such as Layer 1 and Layer 2.

 

 

Edited May 9, 2021 by Yousung

[L'Ancien Regime]

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Edited May 10, 2021 by L'Ancien Regime

[Carlosan]

@Yousung  Never do any work on Layer "0". It is reserved for 3DC use only. 

//edit

Displacement is exported using the difference of a vertex's position and its position on Layer 0.
Vertice positions will be taken from Layer 0. This is the preferred option for low-poly export.
New user dont know about it, and there is a eternal asking about layer0 and why not to paint it.

[SMSDIGITAL-UK]

Hi all - RE: BUG HUNTING

 

Nothing major but the Symmetry Tab is not automatically visible on the tool bar and has to be toggled on via the preset panel. 

 

Also I encountered a bug with the DIAMETER Slider not working. The Gizmo and text inputs work but the mouse slider action doesn't 

 

I hope this is of some use. Keep up the great work!

[Yousung]

3 hours ago, Carlosan said:

@Yousung Never do any work on Layer "0". It is reserved for 3DC use only.

OK, I'll keep it in mind.
I think it need a warning or information about that 'Layer 0'

[sprayer]

2 hours ago, Yousung said:

OK, I'll keep it in mind.
I think it need a warning or information about that 'Layer 0'

+ the Root layer in sculptree also useless

[-rb-]

Can anyone import iges into the curves tree? Seems a bug over here 

(PS has anyone ever used this fuction? I don't think it's ever worked for me)

- Rich

Edited May 10, 2021 by -rb-

[philnolan3d]

6 hours ago, Carlosan said:

@Yousung  Never do any work on Layer "0". It is reserved for 3DC use only. 

I've always thought layer 0 should be locked or otherwise not accessible since the user shouldn't use it.

[PolyHertz]

Layer 0 itself is not ''reserved for 3DC use only", it's just a normal layer, however there are some functions that have a design flaw where they rely on a "layer 0" existing and having certain colors to function properly. The correct solution for this problem is for said functions to be fixed, not to lock down the layer they're relying on (as that'll just confuse new users further).

[Carlosan]

0000918: Layer0 - by default to make it locked

Displacement is exported using the difference of a vertex's position and its position on Layer 0.

Vertice positions will be taken from Layer 0. This is the preferred option for low-poly export.

New user dont know about it, and there is a eternal asking about layer0 and why not to paint it.

To lock Layer0 by default to all paint modes solve all the troubles

(rename it to Mesh Layer could help too)

[AbnRanger]

15 hours ago, Carlosan said:

0000918: Layer0 - by default to make it locked

Displacement is exported using the difference of a vertex's position and its position on Layer 0.

Vertice positions will be taken from Layer 0. This is the preferred option for low-poly export.

New user dont know about it, and there is a eternal asking about layer0 and why not to paint it.

To lock Layer0 by default to all paint modes solve all the troubles

(rename it to Mesh Layer could help too)

The base layer in Photoshop is locked by default, so Layer 0 in 3DCoat should also, IMHO.

[druh0o]

It is locked in Photoshop, but you can paint on it without problems. This is an inconvenient way of working, not suitable for any serious project, but completely legal.

If Layer 0 in 3DCoat brings so much trouble to new users, why not just make it hidden, inactive, grayed out or something else. Just call it DON'T PAINT ON ME by default instead of Layer 0

Edited May 11, 2021 by druh0o

[philnolan3d]

22 hours ago, PolyHertz said:

Layer 0 itself is not ''reserved for 3DC use only", it's just a normal layer, however there are some functions that have a design flaw where they rely on a "layer 0" existing and having certain colors to function properly. The correct solution for this problem is for said functions to be fixed, not to lock down the layer they're relying on (as that'll just confuse new users further).

See I thought I remembered making transparency by erasing on that layer. It's been a while since I painted, especially with transparency.

[PolyHertz]

If there is no layer/paint information for a pixel it wont be drawn (that is to say it'll be transparent). So yes, if layer0 is the only layer on your stack you could just erase parts of it to create transparency (or assign another layer as its clip mask), but if any other layers above it have assigned color values to a pixel then it'll be drawn / not transparent. The main purpose of Layer0 is to act as a flood fill so that the model isn't fully transparent / invisible by default.

[reptilebeats]

Hey everyone, so I am trying out the new smart retopo tools, very nice but I was wandering after the splines have formed a mesh if there was a way to stop the new quads snapping to the surface of the mesh.

Im trying to retopo some scan data that i want a smooth finish on but the new quads deform to all the bumps and notches from messy scan data