Advanced Member Metin Seven Posted February 17, 2022 Advanced Member Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) When I use the Vox Layer tool I often get this type of display issue when pressing undo, or even after saving the scene. Often the whole frozen area disappears. The biggest problem is that it's not just a display issue, but the disappeared frozen area parts are actually gone, so I can't create a vox layer anymore by pressing Apply in the Tool Options. This is quite frustrating when you've just spent ten minutes painting a detailed frozen area to be turned into a new layer. Edited February 17, 2022 by Metin Seven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlosan Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 Hi I am testing 2022.06 and cant found any issue witch VoxLayer or undo command You can save/load mask (freeze) states on Freeze Menu > Store (or Restore) Freezing State //edit If you find any new issues please feel free to report it to Andrew, sending scene and crash report to andrewshpagin@gmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Metin Seven Posted February 17, 2022 Author Advanced Member Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) Thanks @Carlosan. The issue seems quite random, and often arises when you've painted an area for a longer amount of time, turning around the model, subtracting from the frozen area using Control, smoothing edges, etcetera. Sooner or later, actions like Undo or even pressing Control + S risk losing the frozen area when using the Vox Layer tool. I suspect it has got something to do with the green border line that's displayed when painting frozen areas with the Vox Layer tool. I guess if you paint the frozen area using the Freeze tool and then switch to the Vox Layer tool, the issue won't occur. I'll try that next time. Edited February 17, 2022 by Metin Seven 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Metin Seven Posted February 18, 2022 Author Advanced Member Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) I was just viewing a 3DC tutorial video where the same Vox Layer freezing display issues are visible, starting at 17:55... You can see the frozen area showing varying artifacts as he drags new shapes. In the end the freeze shapes he dragged turn out to still become a proper Vox Layer. In my case, the artifacts often result in losing my frozen area, forcing me to restart drawing. Edited February 18, 2022 by Metin Seven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Vir Posted October 26, 2022 Member Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 Hello! I have the same issue, it happens very often when you draw selection rather a long time, for exemple when making some ornament. After applying an extra layer added but it is empty, also the selection is gone and it cannot be returned with Ctrl-Z. bandicam 2022-10-26 22-46-17-372.mp4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Elemeno Posted October 26, 2022 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Vir said: Hello! I have the same issue, it happens very often when you draw selection rather a long time, for exemple when making some ornament. After applying an extra layer added but it is empty, also the selection is gone and it cannot be returned with Ctrl-Z. bandicam 2022-10-26 22-46-17-372.mp4 dont worry its been reported... im hoping.49 will have it as its my most used tool 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Vir Posted October 27, 2022 Member Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 19 hours ago, Elemeno said: dont worry its been reported... im hoping.49 will have it as its my most used tool Could you tell from which version this bug has shown up? What about 3DC-2021? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Elemeno Posted October 28, 2022 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 21 hours ago, Vir said: Could you tell from which version this bug has shown up? What about 3DC-2021? i think its been around since .46 or .47... so they have done work on it to fix it but its still lerking 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlosan Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 i was testing v.49 but cant replicate this issue, sorry Is the base mesh on Global Space = 0 try restarting it usig this tool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Elemeno Posted October 28, 2022 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Carlosan said: i was testing v.49 but cant replicate this issue, sorry Is the base mesh on Global Space = 0 try restarting it usig this tool .49 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Elemeno Posted October 28, 2022 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 basically... the vox layer tool works perfectly on sphere objects.... but on square shapes or hard edges... its like 2 out of 5 attempts it works.. which if you need to do a precise shape... you might have to recreate it a few times until it works. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Elemeno Posted October 28, 2022 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Elemeno said: basically... the vox layer tool works perfectly on sphere objects.... but on square shapes or hard edges... its like 2 out of 5 attempts it works.. which if you need to do a precise shape... you might have to recreate it a few times until it works. As you can see ... its fine with spherical shapes.. just anything hard edged , like a cube etc... it has serious trouble... you can do parts ... do one face at a time and it works ok'ish... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Vir Posted October 29, 2022 Member Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 18 hours ago, Elemeno said: i think its been around since .46 or .47... so they have done work on it to fix it but its still lerking Thanks for answers! I have tested it on .33 and it is the same issue So now i am back to 2021 Where it looks like allright. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlosan Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 why i cant replicate it... *sigh* Extrude direction = vertex normal version = 2022.49 * undo goes back every stroke one by one 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Elemeno Posted October 29, 2022 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 5 hours ago, Carlosan said: why i cant replicate it... *sigh* Extrude direction = vertex normal version = 2022.49 * undo goes back every stroke one by one ahhh it does work... but it needs to be as auto vox not create as surface 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Vir Posted October 29, 2022 Member Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 7 hours ago, Carlosan said: why i cant replicate it... *sigh* Extrude direction = vertex normal version = 2022.49 * undo goes back every stroke one by one Well... i tried to make another video - and i failed )) and btw i tried it 6 times maybe with the same result ( bandicam 2022-10-29 21-09-56-359.mp4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlosan Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 please share this model to take a look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Vir Posted October 29, 2022 Member Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 31 minutes ago, Carlosan said: please share this model to take a look CROKO Issue.3b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Elemeno Posted October 29, 2022 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 54 minutes ago, Vir said: CROKO Issue.3b 24.31 MB · 0 downloads i keep getting a crash too... not sure what it could be.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Solution Elemeno Posted October 29, 2022 Advanced Member Solution Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 i just noticed... your scaling is way off transform your mesh until the layer says 1x 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Elemeno Posted October 29, 2022 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 Desktop 29-10-2022 21-21-21.mp4 little demonstration for you 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor Sorn Posted October 29, 2022 Contributor Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 Brilliant @Elemeno! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Vir Posted October 29, 2022 Member Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Elemeno said: i just noticed... your scaling is way off transform your mesh until the layer says 1x (Edited)The thing is this croco was a part of the ring, whith its size, rather small/ Still thank you, i will try it tomorrow! Edited October 29, 2022 by Vir 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Vir Posted October 30, 2022 Member Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, Carlosan said: please share this model to take a look Hmm please watch the video till the end (it is short) There I use Vox Layer, then i delete new layer, make some changes in the mask, click Apply again - and here is the same issue. Scaling is fine. bandicam 2022-10-30 09-51-35-338.mp4 Edited October 30, 2022 by Vir 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlosan Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 Sorry, I am testing 2022.49 and cant found any issue witch VoxLayer or undo command. Please contact support@3dcoat.com asking for this issue. Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Vir Posted October 30, 2022 Member Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Carlosan said: Sorry, I am testing 2022.49 and cant found any issue witch VoxLayer or undo command. Please contact support@3dcoat.com asking for this issue. Thanks I am on 2022.48 - so maybe it is already corrected... Thanks )) Edited October 30, 2022 by Vir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Elemeno Posted October 30, 2022 Advanced Member Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 6 hours ago, Vir said: Hmm please watch the video till the end (it is short) There I use Vox Layer, then i delete new layer, make some changes in the mask, click Apply again - and here is the same issue. Scaling is fine. bandicam 2022-10-30 09-51-35-338.mp4 5.67 MB · 0 downloads i also cant replicate this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Vir Posted October 31, 2022 Member Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 On 10/30/2022 at 4:31 PM, Elemeno said: i also cant replicate this NP Just one more question - where i can ask about the interface customisation here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlosan Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 Rygaard has made a serie of tutorials about that customization 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Vir Posted November 2, 2022 Member Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) On 11/1/2022 at 2:07 AM, Carlosan said: Rygaard has made a serie of tutorials about that customization i will watch the link, thank you! Edited November 5, 2022 by Vir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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