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Hey @Melik , Thank you very much for your kind words!
I am very happy for your recognition in my effort to soon provide quality material that will be useful and helps everyone.

The icons are in the early stage of development.
I know the task of developing an icon is not that simple.
My biggest concern is really the small size of the icons!
You are right about small icons!

I will need to create a design that can make the smallest icon "visible" (Easy reading) without causing confusion to people.

The sphere I used has contrast light so that it can show the brushstrokes on the surface. I will check on this so as not to leave the sphere dark.
I used that color of the example of the icon just to try... to be different from the sphere in traditional gray color.
But, I will also test the material in gray! I like the gray too.
Being ready these tests, I will make a comparison between the current material and the gray.
And then, I will put this result here so that you can give opinion of what would be best to be viewed.

Colors help a lot to identify brushes by the behavior of brush.
Honestly, I had no preference when choosing the colors.
For me, at this initial moment, the most important thing was having the idea to see the project take shape.
And over time, mature ideas and choices so that it can reach an ideal end product.

If this color palette is too dark, no problem, this is very easy to solve!
So I will make the colors a little clearer, or that fits the most of the Themes of 3Dcoat as possible.
This process I would like to be done according to everyone's opinion so that I can reach a balance in colors and can please at least the vast majority of people.

It's not an excuse, but maybe I have color calibration problems on my monitor!
I never did anything on this monitor regarding color calibration!
I appreciate opinions telling me about how colors are in your monitors!

I will pay attention to what you said about the Universal Readability!

I liked what you propose the style of the 3dcoat 4.9 icons.
The gray color or a tone similar to that of the material I had placed in the icon (color that resembles clay).

The icons will be in the full sphere, I think they get better that way.
I will pay attention about... to lighting in the topology of the sphere, so I can clearly show the brushstroke and not in the dark shadow as you said!

It is true! Those ZBrush icons are good when the size of the icon is large.

For a comparison (test), I decrease the size of the zbrush icons of the image you posted to a size that is similar in 3Dcoat.
It's not ideal to resize, but the result is:
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Depending on the zbrush icon, the brushstrokes in these icons, you can see that it is also a little complicated to understand what a certain brush does.
Even so, I think although some icons are a little complicated to understand, the overall result is ok.

According to your suggestions, I will try to do my best so that the small icon can have a good reading of the brushstrokes.
 

Thanks for showing me good examples of icons!

-- About stylized icons:

I would not like to use stylized icons and I will explain why.
It is not because of my taste or style.
I really love icons like that when they are well done.
But, I think I couldn't show a person the behavior of a brush in this type of icon. Perhaps it would cause more confusion than it would help.

To design or create a stylized and simple icon, which is read correctly, it takes time and having a lot of precision in the icon design to show a certain effect on the brush.

For example, I have Clay type brushes variations and when I try to imagine a stylized icon for these versions of brushes, I realize that the task would be very complex.

On the other hand, I also agree with what you said about these types of icons and their colors.
The simplicity of the icons help in UI too, apart from the other qualities you said.
I will try to make an effort to see if I can do something.
If it doesn't work, I'll have to go with the sphere icon and brushstroke.

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Honestly, I was not even building the icons based on the Preset palette.
For a long time, I use the type of text for the brushes in the preset palette.
After you told me about the Preset palette, I had a curiosity to see, and for the first time in a long time, I changed the type in the icon shape.
The result is that I can see the customized icon slightly larger with the name of the brush in this palette as well.
From now on, I will also pay attention to the presets palette! I was totally forgetting about it!
Thank you so much for commenting on this palette for me!

I will consider what you told me:
"Simply said, I would request clear, high contrast icons that are not too dark."

Please keep giving opinion and giving your suggestions and examples.
So I hope I can create good icons for the brushes.

Once again, thank you very much for your encouragement and your words!

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Hey @Rygaard

I agree with you about stylized icons.  It's very difficult to create the perfect, simplified picture to represent subtle brush strokes like clay variations.  I think your ideas about brush icons will lead to better, clearly readable icons.

Interesting...I just assumed your custom brush set would be a preset.  I'd intrigued about them being part of the left hand side brush options.  They will be welcome wherever they land in the UI.

Yes, the zBrush icons are beautiful as larger pics but not very helpful as small thumbnails.  Your logic is very correct.  

In addition to brush icon stuff, I wanted to say that I would love to see some part of your training course cover more in depth UI customization like what you showed in your Rhino demos.  To replace system sculpt brushes on the left with your own custom brushes or just the favorites you use, so you don't have to scroll down the long list or use the Quick Access panel (I'm not a fan) to get to your most used tools.

I remember your excellent post years ago with suggestions on UI changes. 

https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/24681-ideas-and-suggestions-to-improve-the-3d-coat-interface-and-usability/

You expressed many frustrations I have about using 3DC.  Every time I'm in 3DC, I long for a Pop ups menu like Blender's Pie menus for favorite brushes and tools.

I
f the developers had made the changes you suggested, I would use 3DC a lot more.  Unfortunately, these suggestions have been lost and forgotten.  Very sad, but hopefully with custom changes to the UI, we can have a more efficient and enjoyable 3D experience in 3D Coat.

I wanted to add simply that I'm excited for your brushes based on your great Rhino demo, but my one personal request would be a solution to an unsolvable 3D Coat sculpt "problem" which is:

A good flattening brush that behaves like zBrush "hPolish"!! 

I gave up a long time ago in 3DC - whatever Flatten/Scrape/Trim Adaptive brush method I use always seems to create a concave surface instead of nice flattening like in zBrush.  Maybe there is a way in 3DC 2021+ to create this with multiple brush modifiers - I haven't had good luck matching zBrush hPolish brush behavior.  If you've solved this problem and have a brush like this in your brush set - please take my money now! :)

Thanks again for listening to feedback and best wishes as you develop your brushes, course, and YouTube channel.  

I'll be checking in to see what your progress is.  No rush - it would be better to take your time and create something that you're happy with than release a product that has a "work in progress" feeling. Though I always appreciate future flexibility and changes based on client feedback.  But that is a long way off.

Good luck and have fun!

 

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Hi @Melik ! Stylized icons are great! I really like it! But when I think about any variations of the same kind of brush, I honestly get thoughtful of how to solve this situation.
Because of this, I find it better to continue with the idea of the sphere with brushstrokes to better show the behavior of the brushes.
But there are many tests to be done and who knows the stylized icon can be the best choice.
Let's see what will happen in the development of the icons!
There will always be room for change and improvements!

In fact, I was creating the custom icons looking only at the left panel of the interface!
I had completely forgotten the presets palette!
Since I was using the text mode to represent the brushes in the preset palette.

The brushes will exist on both the left panel and also in the preset palette at the interface.
The creation and use of presets is very important!
Because the advantage of presets is that the settings will not be changed, it will always be the original settings no matter what happens within the program!
If I just did as a brush on the left panel, possibly using different types of brushes, some previously used brushes settings could be changed because 3dcoat has the option to save the things you do while using the program.

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That's great you have talked about the training! Let's go:
*** The training is complete and very deep!
The customization of the interface will be extreme!

It goes from the basics (but with many tips and observations) to the most extreme advanced!
That's right, advanced! Everything was explained! Nothing is hidden from people!

I have taken special attention so that exactly all people, from those who have never used the program to the most advanced user on the program, can see and learn many things that do not imagine that 3dcoat can do.
Absolutely, no one will be left behind!

Even in the videos that some advanced users can consider basic and know about it, there will always be a tip there that may be welcome.
I think it will be worth watching the training videos.

The end result that people will have with all the knowledge, exactly all my knowledge that will be passed on the subject ...
is that you will know how to make the same interface that I made during the Rhino demonstration! And it's not just that! It goes much more beyond that!

Now, the best of all, do you know what it is?
Just to leave you with a little curiosity!
I can tell you that the interface will be much more flexible, advanced and much better than I presented in the Rhino demonstration video.
Honestly, I was surprised myself with my interface that I currently have at 3Dcoat!

So, in short, you will be able to do whatever you want by customizing your interface within the 3Dcoat that the program allows you to do today!
I just guided the training focused on my interface! But you will be completely free to make any kind of interface, okay?

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Regarding replacing the brushes or using the favorite brushes.
I think about making this video apart as content of the instructions for the installation of the brushes.

Or, I can create an exclusive chapter on this for training.
I think it's better that way!
I will create the chapter for training if I have not addressed this subject exclusively that you asked for!
Thanks for remember!
Either way I will do this subject in the video!

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I remember this post!
I had and have many suggestions about the program interface!
Allow me to comment something ...
I can't talk much right now, but I think training will help a lot!
I think you'll use 3Dcoat a lot more and will have the pleasant experience within the program!
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Good suggestion! I will see what I can do regarding brushes of this type Flatten and Polish!
A while ago, I was creating brushes like that.
I will review and try to improve these brushes!
If I get it and the brushes behave the way you asked, I will make them part of the brushes package without any problems!

Just speaking briefly about one of the brushes I created!
I know it's not a polish brush, but I made a brush that resembles a sponge that you pass on Clay's surface!
I use it to "polish" and fix the surface of geometry.
It is very useful! But this brush does not flatten the surface as a hPolish!
Only, it has a little tendency to flatten more not completely!
The main objective is to maintain the volume of geometry as much as possible and fix possible complex problems that happen in the mesh structure at the same time.

 

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Do you have a modified flat polish brush in your set or are they primarily brushes for clay effects?

What I have are Clay variations! But as I said above, I will try to work in the Polish and Flatten Brushes family!
I will also want these types of brushes to work ...
So when I return to dedicate myself to the brushes, for sure, I will look with love for these types of brushes, okay?

I saw the video! Thanks!!!


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I thank you very much for your feedback, opinions and suggestions!
This certainly helps me a lot to make something of quality available.
I will try to do things in the right time and relaxed without hurrying and being able to release everything with the deserved quality!
Soon ... God willing! At the right time, the course will be available to everyone! Just like the brushes.

Always welcome here and feel free to comment whatever you want!
Once again, I appreciate your words!
Thank you very much!

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6 hours ago, Rygaard said:

*** The training is complete and very deep!
The customization of the interface will be extreme!

 

6 hours ago, Rygaard said:

So, in short, you will be able to do whatever you want by customizing your interface within the 3Dcoat that the program allows you to do today!
I just guided the training focused on my interface! But you will be completely free to make any kind of interface, okay?


This sounds so great, @Rygaard!  Extreme customization in 3DC sounds like a dream!!

I'm very excited to learn from your years of dedicated 3D Coat usage.  I'm also very interested in your clay "sponge" brush and am grateful if you have the time to work on an hPolish brush that flattens with clean, flat hard surface planes like zBrush.  But I consider that a bonus to all the great stuff you are planning.

Thanks for all your hard work.  I pray you'll be rewarded in many ways when you finally release your training, brushes and video channel.

Good luck!

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Hi @Melik ,  First... I would like to apologize for only responding now! I had to take some time off for health reasons, and I had to stop all my progress about training and other things!
I think I can start chapter 15 again only tomorrow or the day after... I'm on rest at the moment.
I apologize to everyone for this delay. But unfortunately, things happen and the worst is over.
I would already have more chapters done, but that's how it is... all in the right time.

Yes! Customization at this level even within 3DCoat!
In every chapter, but especially in the early chapters, I put everyone on the same level...
I don't want to leave anyone without knowledge, even people who have never seen 3DCoat behind.
So for me what is most important is that everyone can learn.
With the passage of "time" or chapters, each chapter increases the degree of difficulty (but everyone together in the same boat).
Even for people with an advanced level of knowledge, I hope I have some tips to help that person or useful information that might help.

Thank you! I'm also very excited to share my knowledge gained over the years about 3DCoat! As well as other good things!

I'm not going to promise, not to give false hope or break my word, but I'm going to dedicate myself and put a lot of love to have hPolish, flatten brushes that have this behavior you talked about.
I like these types of brushes too, so why not try this bonus?!
If all goes well, I'll give you this great news... or is it a bonus?

I appreciate your kind words and prayers!
But the big reward is already producing it all for all of you!
And I hope to count on everyone's presence on the youtube channel that I'm still going to create soon, okay?

Once again, I am so sorry for this delay...

thank you very much

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Hi @Melik I really appreciate your kind words! Thank you very much!

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Hi everyone! After a really bad phase... Finally, I'm back! YESSS! And even though I'm not 100% yet, I came back more focused and even more willing to continue what I was doing with great joy and dedication!

As always, I'd like to share my progress with you all! Sounds good, right?

During this week (since my last post here on the forum), I continued to work but at a not so fast pace!
I don't know what happens to me, but I can't sit still (resting), especially when I have responsibilities to do on this journey of ours!

But, getting straight to the point...
The good news is that I managed to do 4 more parts of the free training!
That's right!

I don't intend to delay the work in any way!
So I just made 4 more videos for all of us!

I'm so happy to have taken these 4 more steps on this journey of ours!
It may seem like little progress, but believe me... it was a lot for the moment!

From now on, for sure, I will advance much faster in the progress of the training videos!

Thank you very much!

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Hey everyone! I have great news for all of you!

Next week... guess what?
Yeah! Finally, after a long period of hard work, dedication, effort and lots of love!

I am pleased to inform you that I will be releasing the free 3DCoat training! That's right!

In fact, there are only a few chapters left for all the training to be ready!
But, I'm so excited that I couldn't wait any longer to deliver the training to you.

So be prepared because in a few days, the countdown will begin and I will be officially announcing the free training release!
Sounds good, right?!

I will start to organize the final preparations and with great joy...
I will announce all the details here so that you can access and join me in this new journey with many good things!

I hope I can count on all of you...

I confess that I am very anxious and excited! Yessss!

So let the countdown begin...

Thank you very much!

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I've just noticed this thread now, and the training sounds great.  

Just a thought which occurred to me regarding icons/labelling of different brushes and tools and variations thereof... I learned art with traditional tools (Computers barely existed back then!) and my range of pencils were identically coloured, and simply labelled 4B, 3B, 2B, HB, 2H, and 4H.  My paint brushes were all burgundy, but numbered 1,2,3,4,5,6, etc.  My ink pens were al black, but numbered 0.1, 0.3, and 0.8. 

As a designer, a good interface and communication with the user is important, but as long as common tools are in the same place you left them, and have an easy identifier, even if it is just a number or letter, muscle memory becomes key.

:)

Derek

 

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On 6/10/2022 at 2:10 PM, alexn007 said:

Thank you @Rygaard ! 

I'm super excited and extremely appreciative to see the great work you have done! It's a massive amount of work, and you are so kind to share it with everyone here!

So thank you so much for doing this!

Hi @alexn007 You are welcome! Really, it's been a lot of work even for a huge amount of content!
I am very happy to be able to share all this with you!
Every time I see words of encouragement and thanks coming from people like you, I see that all the effort I'm doing really worth it!
And it gives me even more strength to deliver to you all with a lot of quality content!
I appreciate your words a lot! I hope you enjoy everything and that I can count on your presence and encouragement on the YouTube channel and social networks that I'm creating.
Thank you very much!

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23 hours ago, DMG said:

I've just noticed this thread now, and the training sounds great.  

Just a thought which occurred to me regarding icons/labelling of different brushes and tools and variations thereof... I learned art with traditional tools (Computers barely existed back then!) and my range of pencils were identically coloured, and simply labelled 4B, 3B, 2B, HB, 2H, and 4H.  My paint brushes were all burgundy, but numbered 1,2,3,4,5,6, etc.  My ink pens were al black, but numbered 0.1, 0.3, and 0.8. 

As a designer, a good interface and communication with the user is important, but as long as common tools are in the same place you left them, and have an easy identifier, even if it is just a number or letter, muscle memory becomes key.

:)

Derek

 

Hi @DMG ! Glad you appeared here! You are welcome! What you said is really very important!
Also because I myself as a user, I feel on my skin when something is good or not in the use of programs in general!
So I worry about the interface and communication with the end user!

The goal is for user to easily use and view. I believe that in the design of the brushes icons and labeling will be mainly divided into color groups and brushes behavior.
I believe this will be great for people's muscle memory!
Because automatically and without thinking the user will have quick and easy usability during the work process.
Something that makes it natural to the user.
And that's exactly what I would like to have if I was working!

For sure, I will also take into account all the comments and suggestions that people have said earlier!
Thank you very much for your comment and suggestion! Even I will also take into account your comment!

Please feel free to comment on anything!
Thank you very much!

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Hi everyone!  I would like to inform you all what is happening at the moment!

I would like to apologize for the delay, but I need to do something first before making free training available.

I am dealing with the "technical parts" for the opening of social networks and the YouTube channel.
I am depending on a person who is doing some registers of things important to me, and only after that can I open the YouTube channel and social networks.

In this period I advanced many things about arts and designs for the YouTube channel and social networks!
I created thumbnail (art) of free training for YouTube!
I have also created most covers of the arts related to all the social networks I will have.

I need to create a website, but don't worry this will not influence the date of release of social networks and the YouTube channel.
The website is something important to do. Another big project that I need to do.

Therefore, free training will be available immediately as soon as I create the YouTube channel.
This means that as soon as the registration is ready that the person is doing for me, it will be the release date of the YouTube channel and social networks.
This registration process may be ready in a few days, next week or ... But I believe it won't take a long time!

Another thing that is important to say about the brushes is that it is a really gigantic project!
So I will have to dedicate myself to icon design, do documentation (text and videos) and other things needed like the place I will make available (Gumroad and ArtStation).
For the videos, I will have to make specific videos for the behavior of each brush and the final promotional video of the brushes package (that means I will make a presentable sculpture using the brushes).

And of course! I will not forget to create Polish and Flatten brushes!
Only if I have a great result for these brushes, I will include in the brushes package, because I will not create anything to be able to include in the brushes package!

So, the most important thing to say is that after I make free training available to all of you, I will be able to dedicate myself exclusively to the brushes.

As you can see is a lot being done at the same time and hard work!

In a few days I will have great news for all of you!
The countdown continues!
Every day passing, I'm more excited and anxious because the moment is coming!

Thank you very much!

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Hi,

Thanks for the updates! Fantastic news indeed!

By the way, one thing I would recommend (and have been recommended to me before) is not to launch a product on a Friday. And not to launch it on a Weekend either, of course. And if possible, be rested for the launch. Make it possible. Really, be rested. Seriously. For realsies. Be rested. OK. There.

If ready on Tuesday: take the day off, rest, leave everything ready and enjoy yourself doing something else. Sleep. Have fun. The reason may be obvious to some, but it's not uncommon to arrive exhausted to a launch date, having been pushing hard until the end: there, it's done!, we say. And it's only human to be mentally excited that the hard work is over and one will finally be able to show the work to the world. Launch the product. And expect to take a nap. Or the day off. Or feel a sense of relief, as the excitement wanes off... and then something goes wrong. Some parts of the world can't see it. Some credit cards won't accept payments from people whose name starts with an L or there's a gas leak in your neighbor's house and the fireman asks you to be there for some reason. It's hard to deal with a launch. And it's harder if it goes well! Lots more can happen if there's more traffic: more questions, more refunds, more e-mails of gratitude, comments on social networks, petitions, Nobel prize award rumours and talking... Be rested. Seriously. For real. Mate, come on, be rested. Also, to not miss on other people's excitement. Try to be there. Answer the first few days as much as possible on social networks, e-mail, customer service issues...

There. You probably already know all this, but letting a day more pass can make such a big difference and I know it's difficult to wait for that last step. It is a step. The day before launch is rest day.

Super good news, though!! Almost there! :)

Thanks again, @Rygaard and sorry for the ramblings. I'm also excited apparently! :)

PS: I'm not saying to brace for a disaster. Just sometimes things happen and if rested, they get solved and one moves on easily. The important bit is about being there, for the first days, to enjoy and comment with others the fruits of the hard work. That's it. 

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Hi @Allabulle, you are always very welcome! I really appreciate your words!
I completely understand what you mean to me!
I will really need a day off! I didn't stop doing things even when I was sick.

I'll take your advice and I'll release things sometime during the week!
Everything will be done with tranquility so that all of you can have the best of the things I'm doing.
Once again, thank you very much for your words!

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Hi @Craig Berry, thanks for your interest! You are very welcome! First, I'm going to make the training I've done available to all of you!
Then, finally, I will be able to dedicate myself to the brush project which is huge!

Please, I just ask for a little patience!
I'm also very excited about so many good things coming!
I hope you like it!
But before the brushes, you enjoy the training!

Thank you!

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Hi everyone! Updating my progress for you guys! I apologize to everyone for the delay in responding.

But many important things are happening behind the scenes!
These last week were a lot of work in the sense of solving technical problems.

This period is being completely focused on solving registers, social networks and also a good surprise that I will talk about below.

My intention is to do everything in the best possible way, with extreme quality and in a professional way.
For that to happen I'm really dedicating myself and I'm investing ($).

So, I have news for you!
I will have an official website! Yeah..That's right!
Yesss! We will also have an official website!

Other good news:
Finally, I had a contact telling me that some important registers are coming to an end so I can finally make things available!
Sounds good, right?! Great! I am really happy!

So please have a little patience with me and stay tuned!
Because all the information about the official release of social networks, youtube channel and also the website will be passed by me soon!
It really is coming...

Thank you very much!

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On 7/3/2022 at 9:36 PM, Rygaard said:

Hi everyone! Updating my progress for you guys! I apologize to everyone for the delay in responding.

But many important things are happening behind the scenes!
These last week were a lot of work in the sense of solving technical problems.

This period is being completely focused on solving registers, social networks and also a good surprise that I will talk about below.

My intention is to do everything in the best possible way, with extreme quality and in a professional way.
For that to happen I'm really dedicating myself and I'm investing ($).

So, I have news for you!
I will have an official website! Yeah..That's right!
Yesss! We will also have an official website!

Other good news:
Finally, I had a contact telling me that some important registers are coming to an end so I can finally make things available!
Sounds good, right?! Great! I am really happy!

So please have a little patience with me and stay tuned!
Because all the information about the official release of social networks, youtube channel and also the website will be passed by me soon!
It really is coming...

Thank you very much!

Amazing work! I am excitedly waiting for the release! Especially the brushes! I am super excited!
Keep up the good stuff, can't wait for them to be appeared!

Much love and much rest after this one, make sure!
All the best!

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