Trying to install 3dcoat to work across 3 different distros on on computer

[womball]

My desktop is complicated, I have fedora, endevour os, and  lmde 6 linux on different nvme drives all in one  computer. I tend to hop from linux whenever one distro acts weird from an update or I get bored. I tried installing linux on a hard drive accesible from all three distros but the .sh file doesn't seem to work or the .desktop either. Any suggestions on how to get it to work? I just purchased 3d coat this week so not familar with it yet. If it can't be done which would be the best distro to use? Also I have a nvidia 3900, and huion kamvas pro 20 tablet which are complications.

Edited November 27, 2024 by womball

[Grakino]

3DCoat is going through hard times if we talk about Linux support. It is still on the migration to GTK3 from GTK2 for almost year. That mean we have 2 versions of 3DCoat for now: old, but relatively stable 2024.06, and raw 2024.28.02. The easiest way to run it from all three machines is to run windows version on Lutris. For me it work quite stable, everything what i use work fine, even my tablet (Huion SH610), update manager, downloading VDM brushes (that mean internet file downloading works fine too). This is my main production version. You don't need to do some extra settings. The only thing i did is switched wine version to "System" because in my case, my tablet working only with this setting.

If you really want Linux version only. Well, for now stable native support is Ubuntu 20.04 for 3Dcoat 2024.06. I tested both version in Debian 12 KDE X11 and they are working, 2024.06 works more stable just because Debian always has the oldest packages it can run any old stuff . I just downloaded and tested 2024.28.02 from my main Mint 22 X11 and it works. You should forget running it on Wayland, because it doesn't support it yet, but you can try run 2024.06 at least in Ubuntu 20.04 it works well. Maybe it will work in more fresh OS.

If you want to learn more about Linux support i would recommend to read last three pages of "Linux updates news". That should be enough to understand current situation.

 

Edited November 28, 2024 by Grakino

[SreckoM]

On PopOS, that is based on Ubuntu 22.04LTS, I have version 2024.06 working fine. Latest version has issues and it is not workable. I am slowly moving my sculpting work to Blender, and prob will stop upgrading 3DCoat. Blender just works flawlessly on Linux.

Edited November 28, 2024 by SreckoM

[womball]

The problem with blender is I can only hit 40 million polies. 3dcoat supposedly can hit 200 million which is helpful for pore level sculpting. Zbrush can handle it but its difficult to run zbrush on linux since the pen likes to lose pressure senstivity. 

[SreckoM]

Well with latest version you can hit 0 polies  At least I can not make it work on ubuntu 22.04, have disappearing viewport issue when in sculpt mode. 

[womball]

But it will work well in lutris? I got zbrush working although I tend to lose pressure sensitivity in zbrush. 

[SreckoM]

We are talking about native support not over lutris or other cross platforms. Not even want to bother with that, i am using 3dcoat for work not for hobby. I paid for native linux app. 

[arumiat]

Agreed. Was disappointed to try and run 3DC on Linux Mint 22, and have it crash as soon as trying to import any file.

[womball]

This game has no executable set. The install process didn't finish properly.

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/lutris/exception_backstops.py", line 29, in wrapper
    result = function(*args, **kwargs)
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/lutris/game.py", line 672, in configure_game
    gameplay_info = self.get_gameplay_info(launch_ui_delegate)
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/lutris/game.py", line 611, in get_gameplay_info
    gameplay_info = self.runner.play()
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/lutris/runners/wine.py", line 1223, in play
    raise MissingGameExecutableError(filename=game_exe)

lutris.exceptions.MissingGameExecutableError: This game has no executable set. The install process didn't finish properly.

Lutris log:
[INFO:2024-12-20 14:27:35,174:application]: Starting Lutris 0.5.18
[INFO:2024-12-20 14:27:35,175:schema]: Migrating games field sortname
[INFO:2024-12-20 14:27:35,185:schema]: Migrating games field has_custom_coverart_big
[INFO:2024-12-20 14:27:35,195:schema]: Migrating games field discord_id
[INFO:2024-12-20 14:27:35,219:__init__]: Running migration: retrieve_discord_appids
[INFO:2024-12-20 14:27:35,220:retrieve_discord_appids]: Updating Games Discord APP ID's
[INFO:2024-12-20 14:27:35,693:__init__]: Running migration: migrate_sortname
[INFO:2024-12-20 14:27:35,702:migrate_sortname]: Adding blank sortname field to database
[INFO:2024-12-20 14:27:36,100:migrate_sortname]: Added blank sortname for Quixel Mixer
[INFO:2024-12-20 14:27:36,100:__init__]: Running migration: migrate_hidden_category
[INFO:2024-12-20 14:27:36,101:migrate_hidden_category]: Moving hidden games to the '.hidden' category
[INFO:2024-12-20 14:27:36,348:startup]: "card0" is NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 (10de:2204 1043:87b3 nvidia) Driver 565.77
[WARNING:2024-12-20 14:27:36,573:game]: No path found in LutrisConfig(level=game, game_config_id=quixel-mixer-1653440917, runner=wine)
[WARNING:2024-12-20 14:27:37,722:system]: Non existent path: /home/nathan/.local/share/lutris/runtime/umu
[WARNING:2024-12-20 14:27:39,473:system]: Non existent path: /home/nathan/.local/share/lutris/runtime/umu-games
[WARNING:2024-12-20 14:27:45,471:system]: Non existent path: /home/nathan/.local/share/lutris/runtime/dxvk-cache-tool
[WARNING:2024-12-20 14:28:47,244:system]: Non existent path: /home/nathan/.local/share/lutris/runners/proton/ge-proton
[INFO:2024-12-20 14:28:58,947:application]: Starting Lutris 0.5.18
[INFO:2024-12-20 14:28:59,166:startup]: "card0" is NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 (10de:2204 1043:87b3 nvidia) Driver 565.77
[ERROR:2024-12-20 14:32:52,081:wine]: The game doesn't have an executable
[ERROR:2024-12-20 14:32:52,085:exception_backstops]: Quixel Mixer (wine) has encountered an error: This game has no executable set. The install process didn't finish properly.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/lutris/exception_backstops.py", line 29, in wrapper
    result = function(*args, **kwargs)
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/lutris/game.py", line 672, in configure_game
    gameplay_info = self.get_gameplay_info(launch_ui_delegate)
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/lutris/game.py", line 611, in get_gameplay_info
    gameplay_info = self.runner.play()
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/lutris/runners/wine.py", line 1223, in play
    raise MissingGameExecutableError(filename=game_exe)
lutris.exceptions.MissingGameExecutableError: This game has no executable set. The install process didn't finish properly.
[WARNING:2024-12-20 14:32:52,085:game]: The game has run for a very short time, did it crash?
[INFO:2024-12-20 14:34:03,814:files_box]: All files available
[INFO:2024-12-20 14:34:03,814:installerwindow]: All files are available, continuing install
[INFO:2024-12-20 14:34:03,817:installerwindow]: Launching installer commands
[INFO:2024-12-20 14:34:03,914:wine]: Creating a win64 prefix in /home/nathan/Games/3dcoat-2024-31exe
[INFO:2024-12-20 14:34:03,914:wine]: Winepath: /home/nathan/.local/share/lutris/runners/wine/wine-ge-8-26-x86_64/bin/wine
[INFO:2024-12-20 14:34:12,885:wine]: win64 Prefix created in /home/nathan/Games/3dcoat-2024-31exe
[WARNING:2024-12-20 14:34:12,932:wine]: Wine Virtual Desktop can't be used with Wine-GE and Proton
[WARNING:2024-12-20 14:34:12,937:wine]: Wine Virtual Desktop can't be used with Wine-GE and Proton
[ERROR:2024-12-20 14:36:27,579:game_finder]: Couldn't find a Windows executable in /home/nathan/Games/3dcoat-2024-31exe
[ERROR:2024-12-20 14:36:27,621:jobs]: Error while completing task <bound method InstallerWindow.create_shortcut of <installerwindow.InstallerWindow object at 0x78df4a2197c0 (lutris+gui+installerwindow+InstallerWindow at 0x6480ccda9130)>>: <class 'FileNotFoundError'> [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/nathan/.cache/lutris/net.lutris.3dcoat-2024-31exe-2.desktop'
[WARNING:2024-12-20 14:36:27,675:game]: No path found in LutrisConfig(level=game, game_config_id=3dcoat-2024-31exe-setup-1734723387, runner=wine)
[WARNING:2024-12-20 14:36:27,675:path_cache]: No path for 3DCoat-2024-31.exe (wine)
[INFO:2024-12-20 14:36:37,846:application]: Starting Lutris 0.5.18
[INFO:2024-12-20 14:36:38,101:startup]: "card0" is NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 (10de:2204 1043:87b3 nvidia) Driver 565.77
[WARNING:2024-12-20 14:36:38,148:wine]: Wine Virtual Desktop can't be used with Wine-GE and Proton
[WARNING:2024-12-20 14:36:38,152:wine]: Wine Virtual Desktop can't be used with Wine-GE and Proton
[ERROR:2024-12-20 14:36:38,173:wine]: The game doesn't have an executable
[ERROR:2024-12-20 14:36:38,177:exception_backstops]: 3DCoat-2024-31.exe (wine) has encountered an error: This game has no executable set. The install process didn't finish properly.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/lutris/exception_backstops.py", line 29, in wrapper
    result = function(*args, **kwargs)
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/lutris/game.py", line 672, in configure_game
    gameplay_info = self.get_gameplay_info(launch_ui_delegate)
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/lutris/game.py", line 611, in get_gameplay_info
    gameplay_info = self.runner.play()
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/lutris/runners/wine.py", line 1223, in play
    raise MissingGameExecutableError(filename=game_exe)
lutris.exceptions.MissingGameExecutableError: This game has no executable set. The install process didn't finish properly.
[WARNING:2024-12-20 14:36:38,178:game]: The game has run for a very short time, did it crash?
[ERROR:2024-12-20 14:36:38,178:application]: Unable to launch game: This game has no executable set. The install process didn't finish properly.
NoneType: None
[INFO:2024-12-20 14:37:05,947:application]: Starting Lutris 0.5.18
[INFO:2024-12-20 14:37:06,167:startup]: "card0" is NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 (10de:2204 1043:87b3 nvidia) Driver 565.77
[WARNING:2024-12-20 14:37:06,209:wine]: Wine Virtual Desktop can't be used with Wine-GE and Proton
[WARNING:2024-12-20 14:37:06,213:wine]: Wine Virtual Desktop can't be used with Wine-GE and Proton
[ERROR:2024-12-20 14:37:06,234:wine]: The game doesn't have an executable
[ERROR:2024-12-20 14:37:06,238:exception_backstops]: 3DCoat-2024-31.exe (wine) has encountered an error: This game has no executable set. The install process didn't finish properly.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/lutris/exception_backstops.py", line 29, in wrapper
    result = function(*args, **kwargs)
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/lutris/game.py", line 672, in configure_game
    gameplay_info = self.get_gameplay_info(launch_ui_delegate)
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/lutris/game.py", line 611, in get_gameplay_info
    gameplay_info = self.runner.play()
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/lutris/runners/wine.py", line 1223, in play
    raise MissingGameExecutableError(filename=game_exe)
lutris.exceptions.MissingGameExecutableError: This game has no executable set. The install process didn't finish properly.
[WARNING:2024-12-20 14:37:06,238:game]: The game has run for a very short time, did it crash?
[ERROR:2024-12-20 14:37:06,238:application]: Unable to launch game: This game has no executable set. The install process didn't finish properly.
NoneType: None
[WARNING:2024-12-20 14:37:21,759:wine]: Wine Virtual Desktop can't be used with Wine-GE and Proton
[WARNING:2024-12-20 14:37:21,764:wine]: Wine Virtual Desktop can't be used with Wine-GE and Proton
[ERROR:2024-12-20 14:37:21,784:wine]: The game doesn't have an executable
[ERROR:2024-12-20 14:37:21,789:exception_backstops]: 3DCoat-2024-31.exe (wine) has encountered an error: This game has no executable set. The install process didn't finish properly.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/lutris/exception_backstops.py", line 29, in wrapper
    result = function(*args, **kwargs)
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/lutris/game.py", line 672, in configure_game
    gameplay_info = self.get_gameplay_info(launch_ui_delegate)
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/lutris/game.py", line 611, in get_gameplay_info
    gameplay_info = self.runner.play()
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/lutris/runners/wine.py", line 1223, in play
    raise MissingGameExecutableError(filename=game_exe)
lutris.exceptions.MissingGameExecutableError: This game has no executable set. The install process didn't finish properly.
[WARNING:2024-12-20 14:37:21,789:game]: The game has run for a very short time, did it crash?
[WARNING:2024-12-20 14:37:40,337:wine]: Wine Virtual Desktop can't be used with Wine-GE and Proton
[WARNING:2024-12-20 14:37:40,342:wine]: Wine Virtual Desktop can't be used with Wine-GE and Proton
[ERROR:2024-12-20 14:37:40,369:wine]: The game doesn't have an executable
[ERROR:2024-12-20 14:37:40,373:exception_backstops]: 3DCoat-2024-31.exe (wine) has encountered an error: This game has no executable set. The install process didn't finish properly.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/lutris/exception_backstops.py", line 29, in wrapper
    result = function(*args, **kwargs)
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/lutris/game.py", line 672, in configure_game
    gameplay_info = self.get_gameplay_info(launch_ui_delegate)
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/lutris/game.py", line 611, in get_gameplay_info
    gameplay_info = self.runner.play()
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/lutris/runners/wine.py", line 1223, in play
    raise MissingGameExecutableError(filename=game_exe)
lutris.exceptions.MissingGameExecutableError: This game has no executable set. The install process didn't finish properly.
[WARNING:2024-12-20 14:37:40,373:game]: The game has run for a very short time, did it crash?

 

Lutris doesn't seem to work either.

[wefwan]

I run 3dcoat on Fedora kinoite through an Ubuntu 22.04 distrobox image and it works pretty well. I mainly use it for sculpting and texture painting although I haven't tested it for too many hours yet in this set up. I used to just dual boot into windows for 3dcoat and other applications during the wayland-nvidia dark ages.

The only problem I've run into is that I can't load .3b files when using the 3dcoat 22.04 executable but it works perfectly fine when using the 20.04 one. I don't know if there's a difference these but I haven't run into any issues yet.

3DCoat-2024.28-02 is currently unusable however. I haven't tried anything to get it to work but the UI just disappears after a few seconds of loading.