Advanced Member chris_solo Posted August 29, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted August 29, 2009 Here a new video capabilities of version 3.5 of ZBrush, this vaguely remember something, don't you? it also shows that 3DCoat is followed with some interest by Pixologic... http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?t=074539 Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/3584-new-video-possibilities-zbrush-35/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member polyxo Posted August 29, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted August 29, 2009 Pixologic demo videos are really masterpieces of advertising. I can't imagine anyone in the 3D circus not getting triggered by these clips. Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/3584-new-video-possibilities-zbrush-35/#findComment-28055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member geo_n Posted August 29, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted August 29, 2009 yep its very impressive as usual. still the leader in 3d sculpting and marketting. That planar brush looks to be easy to add hard edge details. I wonder how mudbox users feel seeing how the upgrade price for mudbox is high and zbrush keeps adding new features for free. I'm glad 3dc is still offering something different to those two and keeping the price in a good range. Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/3584-new-video-possibilities-zbrush-35/#findComment-28056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Bo Atkinson Posted August 29, 2009 Member Share Posted August 29, 2009 Yes indeed, masterpiece graphics, but... my 2 cents follows. The game industry might have peaked, most notably with world-economic conditions. Choose your own adjectives for world economic conditions. The "West" has clearly reached it's slash-and-burn economic peak, of commerce and industry-- It is simply speaking "unsustainable", because it exports jobs to repressed regions and imports unsustainable debt. The stronger future for the world and for 3d is reality based: general-arts, building, manufacturing, science-modeling, etc... Implications regarding - 3DC vs Zbrush-- IMHO-- (I'm still pre-newbie in both 3DC & Zbrush because my living is more reality based and less character-modeling-- So i'm still 99.9% formZ) My promo is more content based and less graphically-perfected. I continually intend to learn these aps, but in a different context other than character or game modeling. (Kudos to gamers with good content, but i speak for reality modelers and the need for more youth to consider this growth field). I find reality more amazing than fantasy. See my self-promo site of a multi-disciplined-generalist http://harmoniouspalette.com/ 3DC is on the better path because material organization is more resonant with cartesian-cubic modeling... My perception of voxels is ultra-high-res block building, albeit with some spline-controller-tools and visualizers... Zbrush by comparison seems to be entirely based on splines (versatilely-distorted-spheres). BTW, i love splines as an essential step in model conceptualization. Spheres no dobt adorn reality, but perhaps space is cubic. Perhaps both are essentials. Both aps use texture painting and offer a sensation of using air-brushes or concrete-sprayers. Both aps provide remarkable painting, mapping and texturizing effects. This falls short of reality-based uses, unless a way to output useful 3D data is given. Such that a user can detail texture for rapid-prototyping or realtime-analysis. Such that models can be exported even to FEA and multi-scientific uses-- Texture in terms of real 3D is ultimately important, in terms of modeling. 3DC seems a clear winner in this regard, at least in terms of the development strategy. Yet my perceptions could indeed be flawed. Always grateful for better insights and higher wisdom ;-) Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/3584-new-video-possibilities-zbrush-35/#findComment-28059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 Don't forget that 3DC is not just a sculpting tool. If you're working on a model of a building, you could do all the textures in 3DC. Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/3584-new-video-possibilities-zbrush-35/#findComment-28090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member kay_Eva Posted August 29, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted August 29, 2009 I prefer voxels. I'm spoiled. Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/3584-new-video-possibilities-zbrush-35/#findComment-28123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member jedwards Posted August 30, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted August 30, 2009 I'll definitely be putting those new features to the test and comparing with what voxels offer. =] The zsphere vids look sweet! Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/3584-new-video-possibilities-zbrush-35/#findComment-28201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputable Contributor AbnRanger Posted August 31, 2009 Reputable Contributor Share Posted August 31, 2009 Pixologic could market the dickens out of a moldly slice of bread. Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/3584-new-video-possibilities-zbrush-35/#findComment-28205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Yes, as someone who was curious to see what they were offering in this new update I felt like my intelligence was insulted by their 3.5 vids. I would love to see that done. Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/3584-new-video-possibilities-zbrush-35/#findComment-28206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member cuffins Posted August 31, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted August 31, 2009 Pixologic could market the dickens out of a moldly slice of bread. Yes, as someone who was curious to see what they were offering in this new update I felt like my intelligence was insulted by their 3.5 vids. I would love to see that done. I learned my lesson well not to talk to much about an other 3D sculpting application in this forum, which is right...in some strange kind of sight. But come on guys, did anyone of you ever switched that thing on you're talking about? If not, please don't flame an App you didn't really know! I'd read many forum posts in ZB Forum about 3DC and be sure there were NEVER such negative posts. It's up to you "fighting" for 3DC in the way you want but please do a fair one! I'm a ZB user over years and I love 3DC too. Why not taking out the best of both? For me there is no reason for fighting one against the other... Rene Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/3584-new-video-possibilities-zbrush-35/#findComment-28242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor artman Posted August 31, 2009 Contributor Share Posted August 31, 2009 :drinks: Yeah..please no fighting..those features are cool.It is not something to dismiss.I agree tough that 3DCoat needs crazy good timelapses made by very experimented artists in the game industry.It would help a lot. (and Cuffins Ive seen some pretty harsh comments from zb users about 3DCoat too...I guess it is a geek thing,like xbox vs ps3...I mean one can get both ,so why fighting) Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/3584-new-video-possibilities-zbrush-35/#findComment-28245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member kay_Eva Posted August 31, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted August 31, 2009 :drinks: Yeah..please no fighting..those features are cool.It is not something to dismiss.I agree tough that 3DCoat needs crazy good timelapses made by very experimented artists in the game industry.It would help a lot. (and Cuffins Ive seen some pretty harsh comments from zb users about 3DCoat too...I guess it is a geek thing,like xbox vs ps3...I mean one can get both ,so why fighting) There can be only one! Wait, wrong movie. There can be only one software on the internet. One key on each keyboard. Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/3584-new-video-possibilities-zbrush-35/#findComment-28249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member cuffins Posted August 31, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted August 31, 2009 There can be only one!Wait, wrong movie. There can be only one software on the internet. One key on each keyboard. hehe...nice reply... Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/3584-new-video-possibilities-zbrush-35/#findComment-28255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member cuffins Posted August 31, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted August 31, 2009 :drinks: Yeah..please no fighting..those features are cool.It is not something to dismiss.I agree tough that 3DCoat needs crazy good timelapses made by very experimented artists in the game industry.It would help a lot. (and Cuffins Ive seen some pretty harsh comments from zb users about 3DCoat too...I guess it is a geek thing,like xbox vs ps3...I mean one can get both ,so why fighting) Right... I think that should not that hard to do... Because we're talking about timelapse videos of an App it's easy to get some nice video material. But we would need some cool music and voice(s) too. And not to forget...kinda script. AbnRanger has started a thread about this. Maybe he should give it a more content related name and we can collect all good ideas there? What do you think? Rene Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/3584-new-video-possibilities-zbrush-35/#findComment-28256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputable Contributor AbnRanger Posted August 31, 2009 Reputable Contributor Share Posted August 31, 2009 I learned my lesson well not to talk to much about an other 3D sculpting application in this forum, which is right...in some strange kind of sight. But come on guys, did anyone of you ever switched that thing on you're talking about? If not, please don't flame an App you didn't really know! I'd read many forum posts in ZB Forum about 3DC and be sure there were NEVER such negative posts. It's up to you "fighting" for 3DC in the way you want but please do a fair one! I'm a ZB user over years and I love 3DC too. Why not taking out the best of both? For me there is no reason for fighting one against the other...Rene Where did you hear me knock ZB regarding its merits? I just happen to think their new feature videos are over the top. I could see if they covered every new feature together, in one video, but they make a major deal out of every single one in their own separate video. Have you ever listened to a new or used car salesman? You know then how much of a production they make out of every little thing on a car. Pixologic is the same, in my opinion. You may like all of that...which is fine, but from my vantage point, it's super-cheesy.And for as many people who promote ZBrush on this site, hosted by one of its chief competitors, I think I'm entitled to refrain from the ZBrush lovefest that goes on here. Quote Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/3584-new-video-possibilities-zbrush-35/#findComment-28258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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