Andrew Shpagin Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 We successfully got American visa so we will be on SIGGRAPH this year. 3 of us will participate there. We are seeking someone to help us during the exhibition. So if you live in Los-Angeles area and want to help please tell me. We will provide free participation on SIGGRAPH + some payment per day (don't know how much) even if you will help 1 day of 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 Great news! I hope I can make it to Siggraph this year, if I can I'll be glad to help out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member 3DArtist Posted June 24, 2010 Advanced Member Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 It might be a good idea to take pictures and blog about it for those that cannot make it. And maybe the blog could help 3DC's visibility on the web being attached to SIGGRAPH. Just an idea, I won't be able to make it but I'm interested to see how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Applink Developer haikalle Posted June 24, 2010 Applink Developer Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 I really hope that I could have money to come but I have to pass it this year. This is relly good opportunity to 3d-coat. Congrats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputable Contributor AbnRanger Posted June 24, 2010 Reputable Contributor Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 That's great news. And the application has really made leaps and bounds since this time last year, so I think it will really impress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor artman Posted June 24, 2010 Contributor Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 Awesome news! ....just my humble opinion about marketing ..I think 3DCoat has some pretty powerful features but its advertised too much as being a zb/mb kindof application.While from my point of view,3DCoat is the ultimate Toolbox for game assets creation. Studios buy Topogun,Crazybump,Bodypaint(hundreds of $$ in many apps).... 3DCoat can really shine against those apps. Not against Zb or Mudbox 's raw sculpting power. Getting expecttions too high will always lead to WHinning...3DCoat is the app where is the most whinning ever. Showcase ideas: (small ideas on what should be advertised to empower sales while not creating too much backfiring expectations ) Just for fun. 1-Voxel Sketching using Reference image and E-panel Splines while using "move to" feature with shift drag to merge sketched parts. 2-Sculpting on multiple voxel layers that have rotated spaces.(impossible to do in MB and very hard to do in Zb(require many special conditions) 3-live blending of multiple Normal maps on lowpolymodel. 4-Retopo Layers* 5-Quadrangulation 6-Ptex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member polyxo Posted June 24, 2010 Advanced Member Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 Awesome news! ....just my humble opinion about marketing ..I think 3DCoat has some pretty powerful features but its advertised too much as being a zb/mb kindof application.While from my point of view,3DCoat is the ultimate Toolbox for game assets creation. Studios buy Topogun,Crazybump,Bodypaint(hundreds of $$ in many apps).... 3DCoat can really shine against those apps. Not against Zb or Mudbox 's raw sculpting power. Good points Artman. I can't say nothing at all about 3DC-usefullness for the Game Industry but I would suggest to show the following things to visitors who are more in involved with physical production: Voxels will be the most interesting Program-Part for this kind of users. Reading in of defective Scandata (meshes with holes and overlaps), quick repair and shape-modification Reading in and deformation of a rule-lessly triangulated (Nurbs-Modeler exported)Mesh Raw mesh export from Voxels, Mesh Reduction, show 3D-Printed part from Voxels Reading in of discontinous joined meshes to Voxels (e.g. several intersecting Primitives), merging them to a single piece and smoothing of edges Extract Skin of a complex object, stl-Export Boolean Tools on complex geometry Wrap/Axial Tool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 It might be also good to come up with a list of projects that 3DC has been used on. I'm pretty sure my friend used it on a big game coming out soon. Of course someone would probably have to talk to them before advertising that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member DRAWINGTANK Posted June 24, 2010 Member Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 Congratulations Andrew I wish I lived in LA so I could help you PS: Agree.... a Blog with videos for those who can't come would be really great Good luck at Siggraph ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member lc8b105 Posted June 25, 2010 Advanced Member Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 That's really great! Have a nice trip & showcase! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taros Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 Awesome news! ....just my humble opinion about marketing ..I think 3DCoat has some pretty powerful features but its advertised too much as being a zb/mb kindof application.While from my point of view,3DCoat is the ultimate Toolbox for game assets creation. Studios buy Topogun,Crazybump,Bodypaint(hundreds of $$ in many apps).... 3DCoat can really shine against those apps. Not against Zb or Mudbox 's raw sculpting power. Getting expecttions too high will always lead to WHinning...3DCoat is the app where is the most whinning ever. Showcase ideas: (small ideas on what should be advertised to empower sales while not creating too much backfiring expectations ) Just for fun. 1-Voxel Sketching using Reference image and E-panel Splines while using "move to" feature with shift drag to merge sketched parts. 2-Sculpting on multiple voxel layers that have rotated spaces.(impossible to do in MB and very hard to do in Zb(require many special conditions) 3-live blending of multiple Normal maps on lowpolymodel. 4-Retopo Layers* 5-Quadrangulation 6-Ptex Totally agree! Congratulation Andrew! That will be another good step, that brings 3DC forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 I was just looking through Siggraph's site, this is one huge image! lol http://www.siggraph.org/s2010/for_attendees/exhibition (Click SIGGRAPH 2010 Exhibitor List, then the letter P) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taros Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 I was just looking through Siggraph's site, this is one huge image! lol http://www.siggraph.org/s2010/for_attendees/exhibition (Click SIGGRAPH 2010 Exhibitor List, then the letter P) This should be really corrected... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 The image is hosted on this site so it could be made smaller without needing to edit the Siggraph page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputable Contributor digman Posted June 26, 2010 Reputable Contributor Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 What great news! Enjoy your time at Siggraph and for a fantastic successful time there. Now, I run off to my piggy bank with a hammer to see if I have enough money to come for visit at 3D-Coat's booth... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taros Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 @Andrew: Don't forget to write an info message to all important cg magazines. They should know too, that you are at the siggraph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 I wonder if it would be expensive to have CDs made up with a demo installer and the PDF manual on them. It would probably have to be done in LA though to avoid shipping costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputable Contributor AbnRanger Posted June 30, 2010 Reputable Contributor Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 I wonder if it would be expensive to have CDs made up with a demo installer and the PDF manual on them. It would probably have to be done in LA though to avoid shipping costs. Yeah...I wondered if Andrew was intending to sell licenses (physical disks in cases) at the show. I also think it would be great if 3D Connexion, and perhaps Nvidia would work with Andrew to perhaps give a Seat of 3DC w/ a SpacePilot Pro and NVidia card away at the show...for participants during demonstrations (if Andrew has enough room to do so at his booth). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 I have a feeling the booth will be pretty small, this being Andrew's first Siggraph and not being a huge company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputable Contributor AbnRanger Posted July 2, 2010 Reputable Contributor Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Javis or Phil....any chance you can get with Andrew and try to contact NVidia and 3DConnexion about being co-sponsors during Andrew's trip. After all...his booth there is PRIME choice advertisement for them, especially with demonstrations using their technology/products. If Andrew can get CUDA involved in the multi-threaded operations, that will be huge...and if there is indeed a demonstrable impact CUDA makes (with the multi-threading work ANdrew is doing), I'm sure NVidia would be very interested. It only makes sense to ask, right? It should help defray much of the cost for the booth and traveling expenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 It makes sense to ask, I don't know if Andrew will be doing any demos though I have a feeling the Pilgway booth will be pretty small. Only he and 2 other people are coming and I'm not sure if they are even artists, let along if there will be enough room for a demo. I'm certainly not trying to put down Pilgway, just trying to think realistically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputable Contributor AbnRanger Posted July 2, 2010 Reputable Contributor Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 It makes sense to ask, I don't know if Andrew will be doing any demos though I have a feeling the Pilgway booth will be pretty small. Only he and 2 other people are coming and I'm not sure if they are even artists, let along if there will be enough room for a demo. I'm certainly not trying to put down Pilgway, just trying to think realistically. I figured it would be small, but No.1, I wasn't sure if Siggraph allots a space for demonstrations at scheduled times...like Autodesk taking a few hours, and others getting squeezed in at various times. Wasn't sure about that. No.2, is even with a small booth, I figured Andrew would want to demo for visitors as they come by...plus, having NVidia and/or 3DConnexion PoP material visible at his booth should warrant some level of sponsorship from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Well I figured there would at least be a TV or monitor showing it in action. I don't know if they have scheduled demos, The times that I've been to Siggraph it just seemed that there were people giving demos throughout the day, not like "Come to our booth at 1pm for our main demonstration!". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputable Contributor AbnRanger Posted July 3, 2010 Reputable Contributor Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 Well I figured there would at least be a TV or monitor showing it in action. I don't know if they have scheduled demos, The times that I've been to Siggraph it just seemed that there were people giving demos throughout the day, not like "Come to our booth at 1pm for our main demonstration!". Right...understood, but I guess what I'm saying is that Autodesk, for example has their own booth (which is naturally larger), yet has demonstrations held at given times. Where are they giving those demonstrations? They rent out that much space or is there a few locations where vendors can demonstrate their wares to a larger group of visitors (at a set schedule)...in addition to their booth space?Newtek is a good example as well. When they have William Vaughn demonstrating Lightwave, surely they didn't rent that much space? I'm not saying...just wondering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted July 3, 2010 Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 As I recall NewTek's booth had a stage where William, Dick Van Dyke, etc. would show LW. Here's a video: I was there when this was filmed, won a book on texturing in a drawing. Edit: lol You can see me in the vid. Right at 5:51 you can just see my head in the lower left corner. Edit again: hehe Part 2 of that video has them calling my name and me collecting my prize at about 5:05, though I think Dick called me Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Britain Posted July 3, 2010 Advanced Member Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 I'm in Southern California, not sure If I can help him out but I may have someone who can . Here is Andrew coming from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted July 3, 2010 Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 Do you mean "where"? Andrew is in Kiev, Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Britain Posted July 3, 2010 Advanced Member Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 Cool, I worked down in the Crimea for a while, one of our wheeling members is from the same general area. I'll see if Sergey can help him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputable Contributor AbnRanger Posted July 3, 2010 Reputable Contributor Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 As I recall NewTek's booth had a stage where William, Dick Van Dyke, etc. would show LW. Here's a video: I was there when this was filmed, won a book on texturing in a drawing. Edit: lol You can see me in the vid. Right at 5:51 you can just see my head in the lower left corner. Edit again: hehe Part 2 of that video has them calling my name and me collecting my prize at about 5:05, though I think Dick called me Bill. So that was all in the area they had rented out? No other vendors ever used the stage? I just wonder if Siggraph doesn't have a general purpose stage/area(s) for various vendors to showcase/demonstrate to a larger audience during a scheduled timeframe.The other thing too is that, even with Andrew having a small booth...perhaps he can arrange something ahead of time to demonstrate 3DC using CUDA over at NVidia's booth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted July 3, 2010 Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 Yeah that was NewTek's booth in the video, behind that wall was a desk with NT employees that would demo LightWave on computers and talk to you about it. I don't think there's a general stage area, I don't remember one anyway. Edit: Ah Here's the floor plan showing where everything is. You can see Pilgway along the left wall, just to the left of NewTek's booth. Looks to be about 10'x10' in size. http://old.siggraph.org/s2010/downloads/SIGGRAPH2010Floorplan.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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