Advanced Member LorenzoS Posted August 15, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 OSX Build, great news. Great work Andrew & Sergyi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member parel Posted August 16, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Would it not be better for LiveClay to be a toggle like Surface Mode- even a replacement for Surface mode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Shpagin Posted August 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Three hours now, testing everything. It's a great build. Thank you. Exporting decimated meshes under voxels palette is really great. Such "humble improvements" make my day. Just minor problems with clone tool in MV mode. The usual "a little blurred hi poly export" though (MV mode) - displacement maps. Though LC works fine, I can't do anything serious, tools are needed... tools like sculptris tools, zb tools. I prefer to work in voxels mode, these simple tools work better for me. But this is only my opinion I guess. Excellent work Andrew and Sergyi! Thank you! It makes my day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Spiraloid Posted August 16, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Thank you! It makes my day works great for me. the only hitch I'm seeing is the perf slowdown when using realtime shadows in the voxel room. the rest is behaving great for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Applink Developer haikalle Posted August 16, 2011 Applink Developer Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Three hours now, testing everything. It's a great build. Thank you. Exporting decimated meshes under voxels palette is really great. Such "humble improvements" make my day. I agree 100% I have exported LC sculpts into blender/v-ray and results are stunning No holes or spikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Shpagin Posted August 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 works great for me. the only hitch I'm seeing is the perf slowdown when using realtime shadows in the voxel room. the rest is behaving great for me! Realtime shadows are cancelling incremental render, so performance drops down. Scene is constantly rendered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Polygoon Posted August 16, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Really liking LC. Pens do a fantastic job sculpting, especially using discreet dot option, its like merging objects to the surface only faster. I have noticed when using other pen options that the result most of the time, is like having strips on, yet I don't have it activated. I have tried varying the "refine steps" option but still the same. Am I missing something? Great work and Thank you Andrew & Sergyi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member geo_n Posted August 17, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 So the recently uploaded win version is rock solid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Creator Posted August 17, 2011 Member Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Hello Creator! 3D-Coat has been built against CUDA Toolkit 3.0. Please pay attention, that there are multiple packages of CUDA Toolkit for different Linux distributions on the official NVIDIA site. And the libraries in each package have different size. So it is risky to include libraries from one of those CUDA Toolkit packages within 3D-Coat package. This is not like in Windows, where there is only one CUDA Toolkit package. According to the NVIDIA manuals this is typical way of deploying CUDA compatible applications under Linux: CUDA Toolkit should be installed separately. If you have application which requires CUDA Toolkit 4.0, it is possible to install it side-by-side with CUDA Toolkit 3.0. Thanks for clarification. Sometimes all that linuxs drivers stuff is confusing.About new simplification during export - it works perfect I was working on a vehicle for Warhammer 40k, and prepared parts for 3d printing/prototyping. For example from 3 million poly/tri part I reduced to 30 000 tris and shape is really nice preserved. Good work!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javis Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 I agree, 3.5.23C is a pretty stable build for having such a new feature in it (LC). I'm calling this one a stable build! Thanks Andrew, Raul and Sergyi for your hard work and efforts! It is super appreciated. If you guys were nearby, I'd get you a drink or a sundae! (I know you Andrew, you'd go for the sundae, lol.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Tser Posted August 17, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 With the Linux version I still have issues switching from Paint room to Voxel room, the UI doesn't update properly, you have to click into another room and then back for it to update properly, apart from that its pretty stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member moska Posted August 17, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 im noticing that painting with symmetry is failling,here and there! mac last build happy joy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member polyxo Posted August 18, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Andrew, the Crashes with Stamp are still there here. When I download I still get the August 7 version of Win 64 Cuda...maybe an oversight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Since I'm painting a lot lately there one old silly bug that's been bothering me. The Render room will only render if the brush tool is selected in the Paint room. Pick any other painting tool and it won't render. No big crashes though, I agree that this build is pretty stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member michalis Posted August 18, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Live clay has a major problem. Sometimes it results to more than 24 edges on vertices. This is fatal error. The file won't open on other apps or try to reduce or add geometry or even smooth it in 3dcoat and have some nice holes. Easy to reproduce it using stamp on a low density base. For instance: Ask for extreme resolution on a specific area of a 10k mesh. Edit: sculptris has a very smooth way to add geometry in specific areas. It does lot of calculations and this is the reason for a rather slow performance sometimes. In fact closing dynamic tessellation makes it very very fast even on dense meshes. When 3dcoat will manage to calculate all what is needed... we'll see how fast it will be. Don't expect cuda to save time in this case. It's a cpu based calculation. BTW It's hard to keep pressing W all the time. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member ace63 Posted August 18, 2011 Member Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Andrew, the Crashes with Stamp are still there here.When I download I still get the August 7 version of Win 64 Cuda...maybe an oversight? I can confirm this - LC still crashing when using stamps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member michalis Posted August 18, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 It doesn't on the mac build but is this issue I mentioned related with these crashes? More than 24 edges, a lot more... does this can kill cuda? just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Tser Posted August 18, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Andrew, I have noticed that the slowdown when working sculpting voxels is back, I also noticed it the other day when painting in the paint room, after you have been working for a while, either painting or sculpting, there appears a time delay after each brush stroke. The only way to cure the problem and get back to normal painting or sculpting is to toggle proxy mode on, then off. This seems to reset something which removes the delay after each stroke. Toggling the proxy mode even works if you are only painting in the paint room and have no voxel sculpt. Is there any way of fixing this annoying behaviour? T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member michalis Posted August 20, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 BeatKitano Please check the behavior of these tools when in lock to zoom mode. A very useful (ZB like) behavior, especially under LC. But it works with an unpredictable way. The surface of the mesh seems to affect it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member michalis Posted August 20, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 OK, same behavior in non cuda 64 bit OSX build. Just try radius lock, it will make this issue even more complicated. I learned to avoid locking, pity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor artman Posted August 26, 2011 Contributor Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Andrew,could Copy tool works with E-panel please??? ...using brush is cool but in some cases splines are needed, especially when making shells for clothes or armors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputable Contributor AbnRanger Posted August 26, 2011 Reputable Contributor Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Andrew,could Copy tool works with E-panel please??? ...using brush is cool but in some cases splines are needed, especially when making shells for clothes or armors. It already works...via the clone tool. I was using it just the other day. Very same functionality. You just couldn't use the brushes. Now you can...but it seems Andrew put that capability in the Copy tool. They should be joined into one tool, in my opinion. Way too similar and thus more confusing for new users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Shpagin Posted August 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 Updated to 3.5.24 [beta] (Win now, Mac+Linux expected today or tomorrow) - Updated LiveClay brushes. - Copy tool got rich improvement - respects alphas, makes optional extrusion, may copy just surface - http://t.co/U0acUZY . It may copy just surface if need - super cool to create clothes, stamp logos, shells - http://t.co/gjcmrwL . In general it allows you to paint over voxel model with different colors/shaders, of course without blending - http://t.co/WcbU470 - Looks like I achieved some good success in seamlessness in PPP - see - http://t.co/oHzUTzO . Baking voxels->ppp got even better seamlessness. - I made Import->Import geometry in paint room. In so way you will be able to change geometry/topology in external editor preserving layers. Imported geometry may have changed topology but UV confoguration should be preserved at least approximately. It will work only for ppp. - You will be able to replace geometry in scene using AppLinks - http://bit.ly/mZqW11 . AppLinks will not require modification. - VoxTree->RMB->Extrude will correcty work with freeze in surface mode. It is important go get accurate shells, also for dental modeling. - LiveClay will work correctly in stamp modes. - Voxel export with simplification improved again to avoid non-manifolds. - Deleting instance issue resolved - http://www.3d-coat.com/mantis/view.php?id=330 - Export curve profile problem resolved - http://bit.ly/qYXBlm - The problem of darkening while smoothing in Win 64 build resolved - http://t.co/kH6Jzgl - Projection painting in Photoshop improved a bit - now yo may edit projection being inside of object (example - skybox). - Fixed painting over UV problem - if island is off 0..1 painting/picking in uv/texture window will work correctly. - Fixed cylinder unwrap issue or OSX 64 bit. - Text/Picture/Curve tool node deleting bug fixed - http://bit.ly/o2lHbG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor artman Posted August 27, 2011 Contributor Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 Congratulation Raul, TubeClay brush feels very good.Really a Five star brush.(even better than Sculptris Clay mode) I think Wrinkle should be renamed "LC Pinch"... it does not do wrinkle really,to get wrinkle effect you need to mix the pinching effect with "draw brush" in/out behavior. SnakeClay is excellent too,very smooth and very predictable! (...but they all just missing "invert tool action" checkbox) I think as far as naming goes just a LC prefix would be better than just adding the word Clay which can lead to confusion. just suggestions : LC Pinch (Wrinkleclay) LC Clay(tubeclay) LC Snake (SnakeClay) Nice work guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member michalis Posted August 27, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 +1 artman. For renaming LC tools. - I made Import->Import geometry in paint room. In so way you will be able to change geometry/topology in external editor preserving layers. Imported geometry may have changed topology but UV confoguration should be preserved at least approximately. It will work only for ppp. Looks like a miracle. How is this possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Applink Developer haikalle Posted August 27, 2011 Applink Developer Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 Great update. REally nice new LC tools to play with. Only thing is when you paint LC in the low mesh density area. breakes the mesh. But even then LC stroke looks really clean and nice. So LC shaping up to be something really great for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member michalis Posted August 27, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 Only thing is when you paint LC in the low mesh density area. breakes the mesh. Repeating myself, a smoother and wider dynamic tessellation is needed. Don't try to make performance of the tool faster than it can be. Now, some huge stars around details are creating. This isn't good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Shpagin Posted August 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 OSX 64 build uploaded. Be careful with drag & drop installation to avoid loosing any data because installation folder will be overwritten. It usually should not be a problem because user data is not stored in installation folder but in user folder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member michalis Posted August 27, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 OK. I can't work with these LC tools. It's obviously me only. Or it's a mac build issue. I through this away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member michalis Posted August 27, 2011 Advanced Member Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 You could ask for a beta team. You don't have to through fireworks like this. It doesn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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