Andrew Shpagin Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 I think it should be the final name Coat means "to cover something with a layer of a particular substance" so it well correspods to what 3D-Brush makes. Please tell if you like the new name. Today we had a conversation with lawyers, so we really need to change the name. There is no chance to remain the name 3D-Brush. I was slightly angry on all that laws and trademrks... So, we must do it quickly. Of cause, logo will be made in 3D, like 3D-Brush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member StereoMike Posted February 25, 2008 Advanced Member Share Posted February 25, 2008 Even the abbreviation (3DC) sounds nice mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Sethren Posted February 25, 2008 Member Share Posted February 25, 2008 Sounds good to me to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member xrok1 Posted February 26, 2008 Member Share Posted February 26, 2008 done deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor bwtr Posted February 26, 2008 Contributor Share Posted February 26, 2008 I liked the simplicity of just 3DB so 3DC would be just as good for me also.. (Andrew, it's lawyers who write the laws!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member jaf Posted February 26, 2008 Advanced Member Share Posted February 26, 2008 I liked the simplicity of just 3DB so 3DC would be just as good for me also..(Andrew, it's lawyers who write the laws!) Yes, but it's not worth taking a big financial loss over a product name. While they may write the laws, they also know them and (hopefully) advise accordingly. The main thing is, we have a very nice program at a great price, that the developer is really improving and supporting -- what more can we ask for? So, 3D-Coat works fine for me. I suspect we will refer to it as 3DC anyway, and that has a nice sound (rhymes.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputable Contributor digman Posted February 26, 2008 Reputable Contributor Share Posted February 26, 2008 Andrew, It's a good name and easy to remember.Best of all is that your program is intuitive and very powerfull in it's functions. Thank you! Here is a Psalms verse for you. Psalms 18:2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member geo_n Posted February 26, 2008 Advanced Member Share Posted February 26, 2008 As long as you have good advertising, good marketting strategy and a competent product you will sell!!! And 3d brush is more than competent, its a great tool for painting and sculpting 3d. So dont worry about the name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member yukon_28 Posted February 26, 2008 Advanced Member Share Posted February 26, 2008 The main thing is, we have a very nice program at a great price, that the developer is really improving and supporting -- what more can we ask for?So, 3D-Coat works fine for me. I suspect we will refer to it as 3DC anyway, and that has a nice sound (rhymes.) Agree 100% While i like 3dbrush name, but if there is nothing to do and you HAVE to rename it, 3D-Coat sounds OK to me. Anyway is much better then 3d gem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member possum Posted February 26, 2008 Member Share Posted February 26, 2008 I still like 'bumpforge' better. If it has to involve the word 'coat' then how about 'Turncoat'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member paulrus Posted February 26, 2008 Advanced Member Share Posted February 26, 2008 Perhaps it's only my part of the US that speaks this way, but when someone says "Coat" I think of a winter jacket, not a coating. But again, that might be a regional dialect like pop versus soda. We do say something "needs a coat of paint" but the word "coat" by itself means a winter jacket here. If someone said "3D Coat" to me, I would think it's a DAZ or Poser product for dressing up the models they sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor bwtr Posted February 27, 2008 Contributor Share Posted February 27, 2008 regional dialect like pop versus soda True--to both! In Australia both terms are very "American"! How does 'Soft drink" sound to you? It's a funny world. (Basically, we would mostly consider Coat as "cover" as as in "give the wall a coat of paint" etc.) Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member JimB Posted February 27, 2008 Advanced Member Share Posted February 27, 2008 I wonder how long it would be before it became known as 3D Goat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Frankie Posted February 27, 2008 Advanced Member Share Posted February 27, 2008 I think only native english speakers should vote. I'm not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Shpagin Posted February 27, 2008 Author Share Posted February 27, 2008 How serious the problem with coat/goat ? Native speakers, please tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member yukon_28 Posted February 27, 2008 Advanced Member Share Posted February 27, 2008 I think only native english speakers should vote. I'm not. I dont think so. Name should be clear to anyone, native speakers or not. 3dbrush is good example of clear name, its can't be misunderstand, anyone who knows english a little will get the idea. 3dcoat is not so clear, not-native speakers can get it wrong (take me for example, untill yesterday i thought coat is a cloth) Thats why i suggested a clear names, like 3d-pen or 3d-layer, but its not my decision at the end, if devs like this 3d-coat name i can live with it, i want to see new features in software, is more important to me, so i agree with 3d-coat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member paulrus Posted February 27, 2008 Advanced Member Share Posted February 27, 2008 Of course the other idea would be to move completely away from a specific set of English words all together. Either by using a foreign language word or pseudo words like are currently popular in the web 2.0 world (aka Flickr, Pownce, Digsby, Twitter, etc.) Such as: Edgefire Zoodle Eivue Nsphere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Lahoreh Posted February 27, 2008 Member Share Posted February 27, 2008 If Coat could become a problem why not to use undercoat, overcoat, layercoat or a something like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Chuckpie Posted February 27, 2008 Member Share Posted February 27, 2008 Andrew; I would say to move forward, coat is fine. I am as about US as you can get (Arizona). I understand the word coat and for those who do not check this out. http://encarta.msn.com/thesaurus_/coat.html The new Lightwave 9.5 beta will be out shortly and it would be nice to have you latest version to interact with, to make sure there are no problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Roger_K Posted February 27, 2008 Advanced Member Share Posted February 27, 2008 :/ I love this product and its developers are top notch but that is a dreadfull name. you may as well call it 3D@Jacket This notion of holding onto 3d in the name is holding you back. A name dosnt have to be explicitly descriptive of the product, being memorable is far more. important. We all know what Maya and XSI are, their names speak nothing about the product.. they are however catchy. 3D-Brush sounded Generic and cheap IMHO, but 3d Coat is baad. The idea of coating the model is nice but i think you need to ditch the word 3D and push it further. I mean coating artisticly could be Laquering, Enameling.. I dunno but 3d coat for me sucks Again this is nothing personal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member geo_n Posted February 27, 2008 Advanced Member Share Posted February 27, 2008 Its an ugly name but names tend to grow on you after a while. The first time I heard lightwave I said what the heck is that? i was coming from discreet 3d studio max and at that time the name 3d studio max was exactly what I would think a 3d program would have. Fast forward and lightwave is ok. So is maya, cinema 4d, xsi. what does xsi stand for anyway? and who cares anyway? Did anyone suggest 3D CLAY??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputable Contributor digman Posted February 27, 2008 Reputable Contributor Share Posted February 27, 2008 Andrew, I would not worry about your program being known as "3D Goat" , it sounded like american way of joking because in all probability he does not like your new name. I think in the long run most english people will just refer to your program unoffically as 3DC when conversing in e-mail, forums etc. The word,Yahoo, which now is famous, is considered a Hillbilly's word [an uneducated person] .The word 'Yahoo' is a slang term for yelling a great distance in America.Your program delivers the goods[another american slang LOL].When people talk about or review your program, 3D Coat, will be associated with quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member xrok1 Posted February 27, 2008 Member Share Posted February 27, 2008 i still like OverCoat better, but 3DCoat is ok. i agree also that you may be holding a little too much to the 3D part, its really not that important when its starts to sound awkward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member MozzUK Posted February 27, 2008 Member Share Posted February 27, 2008 Gotta say I agree with Roger K. 3D-Coat just doesn't grab me and, at the end of the day you need a name that is memorable and unique if you want people to go away from any advert and recall/make the effort to find the name of the software they just read about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Frankie Posted February 27, 2008 Advanced Member Share Posted February 27, 2008 A name just crossed my mind : SPLASH! What do ya think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member paulrus Posted February 28, 2008 Advanced Member Share Posted February 28, 2008 :/ I love this product and its developers are top notch but that is a dreadfull name. you may as well call it 3D@JacketThis notion of holding onto 3d in the name is holding you back. A name dosnt have to be explicitly descriptive of the product, being memorable is far more. important. We all know what Maya and XSI are, their names speak nothing about the product.. they are however catchy. 3D-Brush sounded Generic and cheap IMHO, but 3d Coat is baad. The idea of coating the model is nice but i think you need to ditch the word 3D and push it further. I mean coating artisticly could be Laquering, Enameling.. I dunno but 3d coat for me sucks Again this is nothing personal. Gotta agree with everything you wrote here... which is why I wrote: Of course the other idea would be to move completely away from a specific set of English words all together. Either by using a foreign language word or pseudo words like are currently popular in the web 2.0 world (aka Flickr, Pownce, Digsby, Twitter, etc.)Such as: Edgefire Zoodle Eivue Nsphere Why not come up with a totally non 3D name that is catchy? Personally I love Edgefire and NSphere, but that's just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member StereoMike Posted February 28, 2008 Advanced Member Share Posted February 28, 2008 haha, Paulrus, zoodle sounds german (something like spilling, mostly blood). I hopy nobody comes up with 'Shice' cause that's if pronounced english, the german word for sh1t. from you selection I like edgefire the most. I vote for dropping '3D' and giving this baby a cool name. mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Roger_K Posted February 28, 2008 Advanced Member Share Posted February 28, 2008 Lets call it Raptor. Anything to do with dinosaurs is gonna be cool by Default How about a historical name, or something mythical(egyptian, greek). using a name that is aready familiar to people and has the romantisism attached to a myth or historical person/event might be a nice idea. Dont you have a cool Russian name for it Andrew? perhaps character set could cause problems with that tho. I wouldnt worry about the language difference so long as its catchy and easy to pronounce and spell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member paulrus Posted February 28, 2008 Advanced Member Share Posted February 28, 2008 Dont you have a cool Russian name for it Andrew? perhaps character set could cause problems with that tho. I wouldnt worry about the language difference so long as its catchy and easy to pronounce and spell YES! A great idea. For example, Panasonic's best TV line is called the Kuro line. Kuro means black in Japanese. But I guarantee 99% of the people in America have no idea what it means - it just looks and sound "cool". Something similar in Russian might work well. Let me know if for some reason you want some Japanese words Andrew - my wife is Japanese. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Roger_K Posted February 28, 2008 Advanced Member Share Posted February 28, 2008 Otaku brush Kensai would be cool but a little bit too cheesy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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