Hi Elemo, I noticed that the painting layers look different now, and I understand the excitement for big changes but it is complicated because it depends on the 3dcoat architecture. While small improvements are always welcome, I believe the focus should first be on improving the user experience (UX). Why? Because although 3dCoat has a lot of powerful tools, it can be overwhelming for users to understand and navigate them effectively. For example, yesterday I was working with polygroups in the Retopo Room, but when I switched to the UV Room, my model disappeared. I couldn't figure out how to transfer my polygroups to the UV Room to create UVs. Each room feels like a completely separate entity, with no clear connection between them. This disconnect makes it challenging for new users to grasp the workflow and overcomplicates the pipeline for something as simple as creating a basic asset. Additionally, the inconsistency in shortcuts across rooms adds another layer of frustration. For instance, I'd like to assign different shortcuts for modeling and painting tasks, but the current system doesn't seem to support that flexibility. While the UI is not bad, it could definitely be refined with small improvements (as kaizen methodology). However, improving the UX should be the priority to make 3dCoat more intuitive and accessible, especially for new users as me.

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For transparency, turn off Layer0 visibility   Your SMat: preview icon look ok   depth of Layer2 is at -15 ?    

theres been changes to ui/ux? i have 2024/31 and ui looks the same .. all menus look the same too ... since like v2

Can't you just make it available in the the new extension system in blender so we always have access to the latest version of applink?

so i made this object that needs to use transparency as its baked on to a flat plane. i thought i had to create or assign a layer as an opacity mask to get layer zero to not show up. that caused the preview materials to not display or display as fully transparent. so i removed any opacity "clip mask layer" info from that field and my materials previews worked again. so i was still wondering how do i get this layer zero to not ruin my opacity for this object. well i set its layer opacity in layer blending from 100 to 0. i then used the tracer lines 2 layer from the original bake as transparency for all other layers and i believe im good now with it. see image no. 4 for anyone in future do not assign a clip mask to a layer zero but instead just set the layer zero to zero percent opacity. i think....lol

Ive been using the link and APP Carlos supplied. I have no issues with it in Blender 4.3

Amazing! I've downloaded the latest version of 3dCoat, and there are significant improvements in both the UI and UX. If they keep enhancing it, more artists will be interested in learning the software, and the learning curve will become less step. I hope developers work on improving the creation of pie menus. These types of widgets are highly flexible and provide a much better user experience.

ive narrowed it down to a layer in the paint room doing it but im not sure which one. 

tried past file on current stable build and problem is not happening.... so im more confused. the past file works fine the current reconstructed model file breaks the icon gen.  so something specific about this file or model is the problem even though reconstructed from exports.  im baffled ill try sharing my file  

so i did some trouble shooting this am. alot of it. rolled back to earlier stable. tried with same file and tried with no file. whenever i DID NOT have a file for painting loaded in the paint room it worked fine. when i HAD a file loaded in the paint room i got this totally transparent icon or error. so i reconstructed the file from its exports, an obj and its exported textures. with the reconstructed file open i got the error in icon gen. so with any file or paint objects and textures loaded in the paint room this error is visible when remaking the icons. in either version of 3d coat today when i had nothing loaded in paint room the icon gen was correct.  in simpler terms  with clean reconstructed objects and textures loaded in paint room icon gen failed with no objects in paint room icon gen was successful.  this is strange i do not know what this means. thanks again for help here. troubleshooting these issues are difficult especially when we dont know what variable are at work here. next i will test on another prev made file and see if that one works or fails for consistency.  3dcoatMatPackedWithIconError.3dcpack

Yeah, you can see the new layer thumbnails and Photoshop style (and compatible) Layer/Clipping Masks here in this video:  

It’s amazing that they are improving the user experience with these updates! Most of the new features related to the layers system are already here. I have 3DCoat 2024, but not the latest version. Two months ago, they released updates for 3DCoat Textura, and the layers system there is quite similar to the one I’m using, but this update seems to be very recent. It's great, thanks so much for pointing me to this update. I'm sure they'll continue making improvements in this area

Thank you for taking the time to specify what you think can be improved. It's far more helpful and constructive than just repeating what you may have heard someone else say...ie, "The UI sucks." IMHO, it doesn't suck, but still has plenty of room for improvement. I don't disagree with much of what you suggested, but the comparison images you use are a bit outdated because we got image thumbnails on each layer + Photoshop style layer mask thumbnails in 3DCoat 2024. I do disagree a little bit regarding the layer grouping. In my opinion, it is noticeably/visually different from individual layers the same way PS group layers are. It's offset to the right, labeled specifically GROUP X, and has an arrow to the left of that text indicating that it is currently collapsed. Some others will also disagree about text vs icons. In 3DCoat, I think there is a good blend of both and you can choose to have all icons in the tool panel. Therefore, I am not personally in favor of cluttering the UI with more icons. We all have different preferences on that topic.

please share by pm the model parts with baking issues to take a look

I saw that video it didn't help in my case, only split UV set worked.