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Great release Ive noticed a bug when changing uvs on a model that has paint layers.If the uvs are changed around ,then after the rebake of the paint info of the layers the normal map displays wrong and shows seams .I looked at it and I think maybe what is happening is that the vertex normals on the mesh are getting lost when the rebake happens.

Hi Is it possible to separate unconnected voxel islands of a layer to another layer ? Cheers M

Awesome tool but there is a problem when I navigate with orbit around .If my mouse hovers over a patch while Im orbiting it moves the patch spline can you put in a disable action while navigating please

Would it be possible to generate the input curves from ambient occlusion ( for crevices) and Curvature ( peaks ) information ? then it could be a fully automated solution but with the bonus of being able to alter the input curves after the fact . I noticed that the "Load Shape" option in the E panel already has an algorithm to convert pixel brightness information to curves .Maybe this could be used to generate your curves?

From what I remember Andrew did say when he was finalising this version of autopo that he'd had an idea for a different algorythm to do autopo.Maybe sometime in the future he would implement that one.

Im thinking that the other company might be the Foundry. They are working on a non linear animation mixer for modo 901 ....maybe they are thinking ...why bother writing one when they can just buy messiah. Messiah was originally a tightly integrated lightwave plugin and modo is written by the guys who originally wrote Lightwave... But then again it might be a snake oil scam knowing fori ......And the other company is actually Unity as they have it on the asset store

Im not sure if this is possible already but a global smooth would be great . For instance for an object that has a lightmap texture but if it is noisy it would be great to do something like photoshops surface blur but on the object ... doing a straight surface blur on the lightmap texture creates errors as lightmaps usually have a lot of uv islands and blurring causes errors at the seams .blurring on the object would be ideal as it could sample adjacent polygons when blurring .

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softimage is the only tool program that can transfer morphs from models with different topology (using GATOR).... as far as i know

first point is already possible in 3DC select quad option and then at the top menu bar change extrusion method to direct

I dont understand the quad model tests .... as every external package may treat the quadrangulation differently when importing the model which will result different normal information on the model and then the normal maps wont display correctly. Secondly a test on only 2 different models is not really enough to determine whether the normal map is completely correct for the given platform .I tested the maya map with the first model in unity and it looks correct but its exported from 3DCoat which Im pretty sure uses Mikk TangentSpace which is not 100% correct for Unity ( I know this from experience ) a lot of the time it will shade correctly but in some instances seams will appear or the shading will be a little off. I think this was already posted a while back by Don Nash(AbnRanger) but here is the link again that explains the problems and correct working practices with normal maps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OONQzKcWeMY and this is a video from the Handplane3D videos section that explains the fundamentals of normal maps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-6Yu-nTbUU this is more in depth about controlling shading and efficiency https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciXTyOOnBZQ This is another video showing normal maps baked in different packages displayed in Unity with different results https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWToeCw1B24 In short - for the normal maps to display correctly the model should be triangulated so the normals wont change .The external package must import model with the normal information and the correct tangent basis should be used for the external package to display it correctly. I hope this helps

Hi Andrew I have definately used it as tangent space ( option is shown on the screenshot ... although admitedly a little hard to see due to the resolution ) If the map was output as a local space normal map then it is possible to convert it to tangent space normal map using a freeware tool called handplane3D http://www.handplane3d.com/ which outputs to most major tangent space formats ( including 3DS Max's).

I already did try inverting green on test 1 for max either way they are not correct in max viewport display .Max doesnt use Mikk Tspace tangent basis as far as I know.Rendering the model also renders incorrectly using scanline or mental ray http://s14.postimg.org/v37ttlp69/Max_Viewport.jpg And as far as I know I dont think the difference between max and mayas tangent basis is just green inversion .I think there are more differences .I dont have maya here to confirm tho. Softimage XSI is also displaying wrong. Modo displays correctly using this model Also Unity does not use the Mikk tSpace tangent basis as I bake from Xnormal and I use this plugin for it when Im baking for Unity http://www.farfarer.com/blog/2012/06/12/unity3d-tangent-basis-plugin-xnormal/

Hi Andrew. Ok I started checking the test and noticed a flaw straight away in the tests. The second stage test obj is not triangulated and therefore each program will triangulate the models differently on import .Objects should always be exported triangulated if using a normal map to keep consistency. In test 1 I have found neither max nor maya's normal map looks correct in 3DS Max's viewport ( using any of the viewport settings Nitrous or Legacy ) as both have very bad visible seams. Although test1 using maya's normal map looks perfect in Unity (no visible seams at all) and test 1 using max's normal map looks perfect in Unreal Engine 4

Posting this here as well as the tangent poll thread .... Wouldn't it be a better solution to output normal maps like handplane3d does Export object space normal map and then choose one of the output options depending on target platform and convert to tangent space or even better make all variation options available and we as users can create presets with the correct output settings 2 variations of tangent basis isn't going to handle all situations Seeing as hand plane is freeware anyway ,just export world space normal maps instead and convert them using hand plane .... This is the only way I know of that guarantees perfect normals for all platforms. But if Andrew wants to put the same functionality into 3dc then that would be great .... Maybe the hand plane guys might allow their code to be added to 3dc as it is after all freeware now . http://handplane3d.com/

Wouldn't it be a better solution to output normal maps like handplane3d does Export object space normal map and then choose one of the output options depending on target platform and convert to tangent space or even better make all variation options available and we as users can create presets with the correct output settings 2 variations of tangent basis isn't going to handle all situations Seeing as hand plane is freeware anyway ,just export object space normal maps instead and convert them using hand plane .... This is the only way I know of that guarantees perfect normals for all platforms. But if Andrew wants to put the same functionality into 3dc then that would be great .... Maybe the hand plane guys might allow their code to be added to 3dc as it is after all freeware now . http://handplane3d.com/

Thanks for answers guys .much appreciated

For some reason I can find a straight forward array tool....I thought the instancer would be it but it isn't . Say for instance I want to make 10 duplicates of an object from point A to point B ...how would I do that? Or I want to say make a stack of objects in a cube pattern that is 10 x 10 x 10 ..making a total of 100 objects . I can see the radial array function in the tool list but what about doing it for straight 1,2 or 3 dimensional arrays? Any experts here know how to do this? Thanks in advance

Andrew, will you be speeding up the paint layer on \ off switching. finding the correct layer to modify if I've Accidentally made a mistake can take quite a while with a model with many layers

+1

Another great reason for a projection algorithm..

I would like a raycast select poly tool in the paint room( similar to modo or xsi's selection tool).I find the hide tool a little awkward even with rectangle select.It would be a lot better if we could select a group of poly's and then grow the selection and then hide ( or freeze )the unselected parts,also selecting poly elements aswell would be a nice addition.Also some way of creating visibility groups from all the models elements would be a pretty good addition....I suppose you do have the option to setup this in an external package before import but being able to do this quickly in 3DC would be great too. if anyone has any good info on best practices in this area in the the paint room please let me know .

I would like to see some curved surface generation tools akin to birails Fillets at intersections of booleans a non permanent boolean system where one layer can be displayed as being cut from another layer but actually hasnt been made permanent ( as in standard 3d modelers such as max and xsi where the sub objects can be moved after the boolean has been commited and the result updated in realtime. ability to freeze parts of a cloth simulation for better control. a basic rigging system for posing models ( also for use with cloth system ). Improved uv island generation , the abff lcsm alogrithms are for the most part quite good but a lot of the times they unwrap very badly with some areas massively larger than other areas compared to the base model. Modo does a far superior job at unwrapping islands.... for this reason I mark the seams in 3DCoat ( fastest of all the 3d apps ) and unwrap in modo. Projection system .Autopo-subdivide- reproject for a nice clean surface mesh. Update local autopo . Say you have a model and then you autopo to create low res cage.Then you add some more parts to your high res mesh .It wou for 3DC told be nice be able to analyze where the differences are from the first autopo and add to( or subtract from ) the low res cage .The low res model could also be used as a deforming cage.....Kind of an autopo-as - you -go system. Surface mode(liveclay) use a HSDS system for localised subdivision, kind of like what zbrush /mudbox use but with localised subdivision without destroying subdivision layers. Maybe a way to do sculpt layers ...... Im just guessing but it might be a solution .Also maybe a way to do mesh morphing See here for the 3DS Max documentation on this http://docs.autodesk.com/3DSMAX/15/ENU/3ds-Max-Help/index.html?url=files/GUID-E7312BB6-AB50-4328-8855-64AD828CAEC5.htm,topicNumber=d30e85460

It might be an idea for someone to provide a scene with a box that has the correct size for autopo so a model fits within the size of the box and will autopo optimally... .until Andrew fixes the issue

wow thats perfect