Reputable Contributor AbnRanger Posted February 9, 2010 Reputable Contributor Share Posted February 9, 2010 I noticed on 3dConnexion's website today that they are selling refurbished Space Pilots for $189...they were $400 not even a year ago, and was their top of the line model. Anybody who is a serious 3DC user and or uses Maya, Max, Softimage or Blender on a regular basis REALLY should heavily consider getting one. This model is really worth looking at instead of just the Navigator, as the extra programmable buttons really make it easy to keep your non-mouse hand on the device most of the time, instead of having to jump back and forth between the keyboard for shortcuts. Just thought I'd bring it up, as this is one of the features of 3DC that remains very attractive to me....support for these devices. Edit: Ebay link...the link I originally pointed to, no longer offers them. I guess 3DConnexion thought it was too much of a threat to the new SpacePilot PRO model that replaced it as the top of the line. $72 for what was $400 less than a year ago...can't beat that with a stick. http://cgi.ebay.com/3DConnexion-USB-SpacePilot-3D-Motion-Controller_W0QQitemZ290423300564QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMice?hash=item439e93e1d4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member spacepainter Posted February 11, 2010 Advanced Member Share Posted February 11, 2010 really cheap!I want it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member ifxs Posted February 11, 2010 Advanced Member Share Posted February 11, 2010 can you use the 3d connexion device to rotate your voxel object while you are sculpting on it with a brush using a mouse or tablet(like a potter's wheel)? Allowing me to rotate a sculpt object while I an painting on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputable Contributor AbnRanger Posted February 11, 2010 Author Reputable Contributor Share Posted February 11, 2010 can you use the 3d connexion device to rotate your voxel object while you are sculpting on it with a brush using a mouse or tablet(like a potter's wheel)? Allowing me to rotate a sculpt object while I an painting on it? I never tried that...you can certainly lay down spline points like that, but I'm not sure how efficient it would be to paint with a brush stroke that way. It's very close though....you can slowly rotate the model and paint in a very natural fashion. It literally is like holding the model with one hand and sculpting/painting with the other. Once you start using it, you're spoiled for good. EDIT: I have tried that since, in Voxels, and yes...you can hold down the cursor and rotate the cap/knob on SpacePilot to get a the effect all the way around. How accurate depends on the brush and your steady hand, I guess. But it's certainly possible to create grooves or details in a 360 degress like that. Some video: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member ManFriday Posted February 21, 2010 Member Share Posted February 21, 2010 I just wanted to let folks know that these things are all over ebay right now for 80 bucks. http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m38.l1313&_nkw=spacepilot&_sacat=See-All-Categories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member iangregory Posted April 8, 2010 Member Share Posted April 8, 2010 Just bought one on ebay for $80 (used) but 30 day guarantee. Hope it works well! Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member iangregory Posted April 13, 2010 Member Share Posted April 13, 2010 Just got it in the mail today. I'm navigating like a drunk through the mountains, but slowly getting the hang of it! It's dimensions are a lot larger than you'd think from the picture, but it's quite comfortable. Only thing I can't get the ctrl, alt or shift keys to work with 3d Coat. They do work with Blender (it's fantastic in Blender). Am I missing something? I'm using the latest driver from the 3Dconnexion website for windows 7, 64 bit. Anyone??? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputable Contributor AbnRanger Posted April 14, 2010 Author Reputable Contributor Share Posted April 14, 2010 Just got it in the mail today. I'm navigating like a drunk through the mountains, but slowly getting the hang of it! It's dimensions are a lot larger than you'd think from the picture, but it's quite comfortable. Only thing I can't get the ctrl, alt or shift keys to work with 3d Coat. They do work with Blender (it's fantastic in Blender). Am I missing something? I'm using the latest driver from the 3Dconnexion website for windows 7, 64 bit. Anyone??? Thanks! Open the 3dconnexion Control Panel > Button Configuration (tab)...and check to see that they are correctly assigned. They should be by default, no matter what application you use. If they work in other apps, then you know it works, mechanically...just something on the software side is funky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member iangregory Posted April 14, 2010 Member Share Posted April 14, 2010 Open the 3dconnexion Control Panel > Button Configuration (tab)...and check to see that they are correctly assigned. They should be by default, no matter what application you use. If they work in other apps, then you know it works, mechanically...just something on the software side is funky. Finally got it! I checked the buttons and all was o.k. So, I thought no harm in re-installing the driver. Poof! it works! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor LJB Posted April 14, 2010 Contributor Share Posted April 14, 2010 @ifxs, Yep, you certainly can spin and paint! 3D connexion support really does boost 3d coats usability. Especially for sculpting and Re-topology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member iangregory Posted April 14, 2010 Member Share Posted April 14, 2010 really that cheap??? I just want one!! Thank you for youe information! Here's a link to the ebay seller I got mine from. The ad says over 10 left @ $80 each. I'm very pleased with my purchase - it's like new (though they are used) and they shipped it quick. http://cgi.ebay.com/SPACEPILOT-3DCONNEXION-LOGITECH-3D-MOTION-CONTROLLER_W0QQitemZ270522002053QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3efc5e2a85 No driver included, but I downloaded the latest from from http://www.3dconnexion.com/service/drivers.html Edit: I just looked again... now they have them for $67! Guess I could have saved $13 by waiting a week. Such is life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member iangregory Posted April 14, 2010 Member Share Posted April 14, 2010 Finally got it! I checked the buttons and all was o.k. So, I thought no harm in re-installing the driver. Poof! it works! Ugg! Well, it all worked -until I shut down. - Same problem again today (buttons didn't work in 3d-coat) until I re-installed the driver again. I've emailed 3dconnexion about it, so I'll see what they say, but I'm guessing it's my machine. Funny though, no problems like that in blender at all. The buttons continue to work, whereas they don't in 3d coat till driver re installation. On the bright side, I'm getting really good at re-installing drivers! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputable Contributor AbnRanger Posted April 14, 2010 Author Reputable Contributor Share Posted April 14, 2010 Ugg! Well, it all worked -until I shut down. - Same problem again today (buttons didn't work in 3d-coat) until I re-installed the driver again. I've emailed 3dconnexion about it, so I'll see what they say, but I'm guessing it's my machine. Funny though, no problems like that in blender at all. The buttons continue to work, whereas they don't in 3d coat till driver re installation. On the bright side, I'm getting really good at re-installing drivers! lol I think it's perhaps a matter of you having to manually open the 3dconnexion Control Panel when using 3DC. When I use Max, it automatically recognizes the device and turns on program running in the background (you can see the little icon in your system tray in the lower right hand part of the screen. If you don't see that when 3DC is running, then it's not running. Although 3DC supports the devices, it doesn't have the deep connection that the major 3D applications do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member iangregory Posted April 15, 2010 Member Share Posted April 15, 2010 I think it's perhaps a matter of you having to manually open the 3dconnexion Control Panel when using 3DC. When I use Max, it automatically recognizes the device and turns on program running in the background (you can see the little icon in your system tray in the lower right hand part of the screen. If you don't see that when 3DC is running, then it's not running. Although 3DC supports the devices, it doesn't have the deep connection that the major 3D applications do. Ah, you were on the right track. I found that running it as Administrator fixed it! Thanks for your help. I'm really enjoying working with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member iangregory Posted April 22, 2010 Member Share Posted April 22, 2010 do they function same with the original? I'm not sure what you mean for sure, but the one I got works great with 3d coat (after I got the driver issue fixed - see above posts). Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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