Advanced Member Scott Padbury Posted September 18, 2009 Advanced Member Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 Where do you increase the density of the mesh when you got it in Sculpt mode? Mind you this is not in voxels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 There is no way to change the density. The sculpting room is really just for making very basic changes to the base model. This is partly why the voxels room was created I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member geo_n Posted September 18, 2009 Advanced Member Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 I think that should be a feature request. Zbrush has been doing well with polygon sculpting with multi resolution. I think voxels are great and offer freedom for sculpting people. But after going from voxels to poly there's no easy way to go back. In a production there will always be changes and edits. Voxels isn't the way to go. A sculpting room with multiresolution would be better and already beend done. Should Andrew focus on voxel multi resolution or poly multi resolution? Is it even technically possible to have voxel mutli resolution. The resulutionless voxel theory sounds like BS. In theory and on words its easy to say but is it possible to go up and down voxel? Like coldfusion maybe. Anyway I'm no programmer and only Andrew can say if its technically possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member kay_Eva Posted September 18, 2009 Advanced Member Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 I think that should be a feature request. Zbrush has been doing well with polygon sculpting with multi resolution. I think voxels are great and offer freedom for sculpting people. But after going from voxels to poly there's no easy way to go back. In a production there will always be changes and edits. Voxels isn't the way to go. A sculpting room with multiresolution would be better and already beend done. Should Andrew focus on voxel multi resolution or poly multi resolution? Is it even technically possible to have voxel mutli resolution. The resulutionless voxel theory sounds like BS. In theory and on words its easy to say but is it possible to go up and down voxel? Like coldfusion maybe. Anyway I'm no programmer and only Andrew can say if its technically possible. I don't think poly sculpting should be used as a crutch for voxel's current limitations. As you can see, these 'limitations' are being gnawed away by Andrew at an astonishing pace. Just a few months back people thought it highly improbable or even impossible to acheive hard edges in voxels. But that's almost forgotten now. I'm thinking just stick with the voxels/surface and see what happens there. Unless you commit yourself to voxels it's unlikely you'll even allow yourself to see what possible with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor Tony Nemo Posted September 18, 2009 Contributor Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 But after going from voxels to poly there's no easy way to go back. . Going from Polys (OBJ< etc) to voxels is a simple matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member geo_n Posted September 18, 2009 Advanced Member Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 kay_Eva - Agree Andrew is amazing. But I hope there's a hint if its possible or not to have multiresolution in voxel if not invest the time on a two way workflow. Sculpting polys is proven. Tony Nemo - import 3d data in voxel is useless for revisions. Voxels convert everything to voxels and lose data. I think what you said voxels>retopo>paint>native app(max,maya,etc)>import obj to voxels for edit(simple)>retopo>paint>native app(max,maya,etc) - not good workflow good workflow. voxels>retopo>multi res sculpt/paint>native app(max,maya,etc)>multires sculpt/paint for edit>native app(max,maya,etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor Tony Nemo Posted September 18, 2009 Contributor Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 kay_Eva - Agree Andrew is amazing. But I hope there's a hint if its possible or not to have multiresolution in voxel if not invest the time on a two way workflow. Sculpting polys is proven.Tony Nemo - import 3d data in voxel is useless for revisions. Voxels convert everything to voxels and lose data. I think what you said voxels>retopo>paint>native app(max,maya,etc)>import obj to voxels for edit(simple)>retopo>paint>native app(max,maya,etc) - not good workflow good workflow. voxels>retopo>multi res sculpt/paint>native app(max,maya,etc)>multires sculpt/paint for edit>native app(max,maya,etc) What I had in mind was more like, voxel>quadrangulate>paint/sculpt>export obj>import obj>voxel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member geo_n Posted September 19, 2009 Advanced Member Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 What I had in mind was more like, voxel>quadrangulate>paint/sculpt>export obj>import obj>voxel. Quadrangulate is messy. Its for one shot projects like personal projects or hobby projects that don't need revisions. Export obj>import obj>voxel- everything you worked on is reset to voxel. its a dead end workflow and no going back, not good. a model goes through 10-30 iterations before its approved so a two way workflow is better. it doesn't need to be done in voxel. A good multi-res sculpting room would do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contributor Tony Nemo Posted September 19, 2009 Contributor Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 Quadrangulate is messy. Its for one shot projects like personal projects or hobby projects that don't need revisions. Export obj>import obj>voxel- everything you worked on is reset to voxel. its a dead end workflow and no going back, not good. a model goes through 10-30 iterations before its approved so a two way workflow is better. it doesn't need to be done in voxel. A good multi-res sculpting room would do. All that would be needed is the enhanced quadrangulation that has been discussed elsewhere. If you really must use a polygon system, you always have your copy of Zbrush (or Mudbox). As for doing endless revisions, the client could choose from images instead of a mesh and the project need never leave voxels until it's ready fot retopology. I seriously doubt that Andrew has plans to compete with the other apps by apeing their technology. Voxels are just too good for that. You will probably see the opposite, the others taking up voxels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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