Advanced Member jaf Posted June 19, 2008 Advanced Member Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 I tried changing the compatibility to win98 and that didn't help. Also, the ATI 8.6 drivers came out yesterday so I tried those and it didn't help either. Simply locks up when loading one of the default objects like "sphere" or any other model. One thing that would help in cases like this is if everyone that has or doesn't have the problem, they provide their basic system specs. The easiest way is to make a signature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member maggot Posted June 19, 2008 Member Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 First time I ran 2.10 beta 1 I got this crash on startup : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member maggot Posted June 19, 2008 Member Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 The second time I get this crash on startup : Both crashes are on windows xp 64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 One thing that would help in cases like this is if everyone that has or doesn't have the problem, they provide their basic system specs. The easiest way is to make a signature. You are correct, I do that for LW beta testing I'll adjust my signature now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Shpagin Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 I have updated the link. There are OpenGL and DirectX versions. I hope it will run better. No addition functionality, just bugfixes. So much ideas and work... Very interesting time. I thank you so mush for patience to my bugs Without your great help 3DC growig is impossible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 New update still crashes on my desktop. I got a tiny bit further, this time I could see the program for a bit until I moved the mouse, then it went all black. I tried again, this time I got as far as the serial number screen. I entered it and clicked Continue, then it crashed. Same thing for OGL and DX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member nuverian Posted June 19, 2008 Member Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 Ok...Here is my feedback. The retopologize tool looks great so far.Easy and fast.Some more features could be added to it, but fixing whats allready there is more important to me at least. I tried the beta at my 2 computers: AMD 64, 2GRAM, Nvidia 7600 GT The OGL version doesnt even start showing the common error window The Direct version start but doest work correctly.I cant create a polygon sometimes, and other times when i manage to do so, the extrude polygon doesnt snap on surface corectly at certain angles of the camera(?) IntelCoreDuo, 2GRAM, Nvidia 8600 GT The OGL version runs. The tools work just corect. On both my PC though, there are the following issues: Some meshes load up with holes (deleted polygons) diferent at each time. Baking the retopo mesh on my Intel PC, comes up with cheker like artifacts. Both pc run on Windows XP 32 The tool looks great so far.. Im looking forward for the fixes! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 The OGL version doesnt even start showing the common error window Are you on Vista? This is the same thing that happens to me if I do not "Run As Administrator" Edit: Never mind I missed at the end where you said XP32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member rimasson Posted June 19, 2008 Advanced Member Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 I checked the new 2.10 version. In Direct X mode, i had 2 display bugs: when i load the head model, holes appear on the surface. In, sculpt mode, using the drag points mode, when i move points, a large part of the model disapepar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchy Pilou Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 For me, DX or GL, --->no crash but exit direct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member sunfire Posted June 19, 2008 Member Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 It is not difficult to do. I will do that also. I hope there is no some copyright. I love this feature, if you are able to do that, definitely you are a master!!!!, Thanks : ) I can't wait to use that feature, I'm clothing modeler and by the way I use Hex2 for all my modeling, any question is very welcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member lc8b105 Posted June 20, 2008 Advanced Member Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Downloaded the updated program,this time no crash window,but after the screen splash,it auto exit ! Both DX and GL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Shpagin Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 I have a big application: 1) If you have got a crash, please send it to me. If PC is not connevted to inet, send me the file InstallDir\Bugreport\bug.html 2) If you have no crash, just immediate exit, plese send me file log.txt Thank you! Of course on my PC all works fine, so I very need some feedback. support@3d-coat.com ps: on my pc (AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2.09 GHz, 2GB, GeForce 8500) DX version works 40% faster then 2.09, GL version - twice faster then 2.09, so I need feedback to extend this result on your PC the test was performed: sphere - 1M (import defailt), pen - radius 50, draw. 2.09 - 12-13 fps 2.10 DX -17 fps 2.10 GL - 25 fps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member lc8b105 Posted June 20, 2008 Advanced Member Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 It's very strange,Andrew,no log.txt file at all in 2.10beta1,run the 3d-CoatDX.exe and 3d-CoatGL.exe only got a screen splare,no more thing. All things well with 2.09. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Shpagin Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 link is updated. I hope at least log file will be created. System requirements are decreased (there was error). If you have downloaded and installed full package of 2.10 and want to update to 2.10B1B you can download and install short package that contains only executables. It should be installed OVERWRITE 2.10 B1. the link to patch (17MB) www.3d-coat.com/files/3d-Coat-2-10-BETA1-UPD.exe Thanks for testing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchy Pilou Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 If you have no crash, just immediate exit, plese send me file log.txt Where is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Shpagin Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Where is it? In installation folder, usually C:\Program Files\3D-Coat-2-10-BETA\ If there is no log.txt, you need to get latest update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member rimasson Posted June 20, 2008 Advanced Member Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 I don't have any crash, both at work or at home. Both computers have quadro Fx cards ( a Quadro FX 1500, XP 64 at home, and a Quadro FX 4600, XP 32 at work) however, i had visual bugs. I noticed a general speed improvement. WIth a Quadro FX 4600, Open GL display is even faster than Direct X. The artifacts i noticed are Visual artifacts. They disappear if i draw other strokes on the model, near the artifact. I have these artifacts both with DX and Open GL Display Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member lc8b105 Posted June 20, 2008 Advanced Member Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 This time got the screen splash and the log.txt file.Here is it: 2log.txt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchy Pilou Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 here the 2 files Log_dx.txt Log_gl.txt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Ztreem Posted June 20, 2008 Member Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Andrew: You never stops to amaze me, this update is great. Love the new retopo tool, with some draw tools like silo and blender similar to the ones shown in this thread this tool will be perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Shpagin Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 This time got the screen splash and the log.txt file.Here is it: Please install drivers (only to lc8b105): http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Product_Fi...?ProductID=2301 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member lc8b105 Posted June 20, 2008 Advanced Member Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Please install drivers:http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Product_Fi...?ProductID=2301 I downloaded this driver,but can't install. Dell Inspiron 640m / E1405,I checked the support page of dell,the latest driver is 2006/8/14,no help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member lc8b105 Posted June 20, 2008 Advanced Member Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Please install drivers (only to lc8b105):<a href="http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Product_Fi...?ProductID=2301" target="_blank">http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Product_Fi...?ProductID=2301</a> Okay,after uninstall the old driver,finally I successfully updated the driver.But still only got a screen splash.I noticed the log.txt file is a little different. Here is the new one. DXLog.txt GLLog.txt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member maggot Posted June 20, 2008 Member Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Briefly tested the new beta, the openGL one crashes. The directX version runs fine! Its faster as well Log.txt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Juan Carlos Montes Posted June 20, 2008 Advanced Member Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 I was able to run in dx, nice powerful tool, It would be perfect with the Blender and Silo drawings line sketch Andrew, You can easy make a Modeling module in 3d coat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philnolan3d Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Oh! I just tried it with Direct X after installing the patch and it works fine so far. OGL still crashed though. I manually opened the bug.html file and sent it because it didn't open automatically. Is anyone having trouble with making the retopo polys symmetrical? I place some polys on one side and click Apply Symmetry. The new polys appear, but are distorted with their points shooting way off screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Shpagin Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 I have updated both - version and patch. I hope this time most problems will be solved: 1) 945/9200 support (I hope) in DX version 2) DX/GL stability improvements 3) Window resize works correctly 4) Merge patch in retopo tool works correctly *edit: In general GL version works faster. But in Vista initial drivers usulally vave no GL support. So it is better to setup latest video drivers. Also, DX drivers version is also important for speed of work. The author of DX/GL engine has told that initial drivers can be slow in 2-3 times in comparison to newest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member jaf Posted June 20, 2008 Advanced Member Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 The DX version seems to run fine. The only thing I noticed is my 3dconnexion device was real slow doing rotations, but I can take care of that in the device setup. The GL version files with an "unable to compile" message. I'll attach a copy of the log.txt. I saw your message about a new update so I'll download that before more teting. Here's the log.txt: Log.txt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Shpagin Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 The information about 3D Mouse is especially important for me because now I have no this device but camera navigation was essentially changed. Please check if all movements lead to correct rotation/moving. Also if speed is changed, please tell what is changed: zooming, panning, spin, tilt,... and how much (approx %). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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