Advanced Member mocaw Posted June 8, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted June 8, 2009 Don't hate me...I like the gizmo! Though I prefer "sticky keys" and such. I think this is the unfortunate case though were an option for "please separate out the SRT into different gizomos" is at hand. At least it makes more sense to me than three identical rings with a line through them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member mocaw Posted June 8, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted June 8, 2009 Im still not a fan of this interface, I mean the colours and subtle gradient are nice but the wall of buttons and lack of icons for anything just feels like the interface was designed by a programmer and the lightwave and xsi interfaces suffer from the same problem. Its still useable but its not stylish or memorable. Oh no...hear we go again... Well I'm from the "I can read it and understand it camp". AKA I LOVE LW AND XSI for the fact that they don't have those icons I have to hover over all the time trying to remember where something simple like the bevel tool is! Is it the mesh coming out of a cube...or that displace like icon...or is it the edges that are highlighted out and extended away from that little...what is that thing anyway? Case in point- the C4D selection icons...uh...VERY confusing. However it's easy to remember that if I click a button under a selection menu labeled...polygons...it will select...polygons... Icons are great...when you only have four things your normal click on... So riddle me this- how would you...with a pictogram...describe more than 1/4 of the tools in 3DC? Just the voxel set alone would be odd...and all the room you'd need! OK...tender dear to my heart subject for me... I say color coat them and group them better...but for the love of all that is holy...please don't iconize is anymore than needed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javis Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Im still not a fan of this interface, I mean the colours and subtle gradient are nice but the wall of buttons and lack of icons for anything just feels like the interface was designed by a programmer and the lightwave and xsi interfaces suffer from the same problem. Its still useable but its not stylish or memorable. It's not a problem, actually. Icons simply can NOT be used for nearly all of the tools in 3DCoat. Seriously, go make some icons for all of the voxel tools and come back with a proposal for them, instead of this TEXT VS ICONS post. Present your idea for something different. Icons make sense when used correctly. 3D-Coat has the best interface now IMHO, the mix of text and icons is tastefully done and well thought out. Again, if you don't like it, make some icons and propose them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Mighty Pea Posted June 8, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted June 8, 2009 Hey andrew, I've been teesting 3dcoat for a while now, and I keep running into problems when using dp, where it will refuse to paint certain pixels near uv-seams. As this is the main reason I use 3dCoat, that's a big problem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member lc8b105 Posted June 8, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted June 8, 2009 Hey andrew,I've been teesting 3dcoat for a while now, and I keep running into problems when using dp, where it will refuse to paint certain pixels near uv-seams. As this is the main reason I use 3dCoat, that's a big problem! Could you show more info? For example a screenshot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member e214 Posted June 8, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted June 8, 2009 This bug still is in 04,less frequent,but just had it again. After 2 days of running OK. Again stamp tool related+undo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Mighty Pea Posted June 8, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted June 8, 2009 The green area is what I painted, the red area is which wasn't effected. Brush-size doesn't matter, I can actually make it as big as the screen and it'll miss those pixels. This is a pretty big problem, and I've ran into it with every model I've tried so far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member ghib Posted June 8, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted June 8, 2009 The green area is what I painted, the red area is which wasn't effected. Brush-size doesn't matter, I can actually make it as big as the screen and it'll miss those pixels. This is a pretty big problem, and I've ran into it with every model I've tried so far! Hi Michael, long time no hear I don't have any issues painting over UVBorder seams at all with DP. Are you running the latest version from this thread - Last Check Also can you post a screen of your UV Layout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member lc8b105 Posted June 8, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted June 8, 2009 The green area is what I painted, the red area is which wasn't effected. Brush-size doesn't matter, I can actually make it as big as the screen and it'll miss those pixels. This is a pretty big problem, and I've ran into it with every model I've tried so far! Just tested with 3.00.04, no such problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Mighty Pea Posted June 8, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted June 8, 2009 It doesn't happen with every border, mind. But yeah, I'm running 87(RC) GL64 Cuda-enabled. And I'm afraid I can post anything else, as this is under strict NDA. All I can say is that it's happened on multiple meshes. The only constant has been that the meshes were exported from Max, and that the textures were 1024x1024 maximum. Overlapping uv-islands are moved outside of the 0-1 space (for bakes). If this was an internal project I could request to be allowed to send the model to Andrew, but this is a customer's mesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member akira Posted June 8, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted June 8, 2009 It doesn't happen with every border, mind. But yeah, I'm running 87(RC) GL64 Cuda-enabled.And I'm afraid I can post anything else, as this is under strict NDA. All I can say is that it's happened on multiple meshes. The only constant has been that the meshes were exported from Max, and that the textures were 1024x1024 maximum. Overlapping uv-islands are moved outside of the 0-1 space (for bakes). If this was an internal project I could request to be allowed to send the model to Andrew, but this is a customer's mesh. You can detach the buggy portion of the mesh and send only that part to Andrew, I don't think anyone would recognize what that is. It's very difficult even for Andrew to solve this mesh specific problem without having a sample to test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member WillBellJr Posted June 8, 2009 Member Share Posted June 8, 2009 You shouldn't be on the v8x Alphas any longer - you should be using the 3.00.xx releases from this thread: http://www.3d-coat.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2683 I was doing that myself for a while... -Will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Paint Guy Posted June 8, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted June 8, 2009 The green area is what I painted, the red area is which wasn't effected. Brush-size doesn't matter, I can actually make it as big as the screen and it'll miss those pixels. This is a pretty big problem, and I've ran into it with every model I've tried so far! Mighty Pea, It looks like the area is getting painted, but the geometry/mesh has a tear or problem with it. I think what you are seeing is the "shadow" which is the result of the torn mesh and not a paint problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javis Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 You shouldn't be on the v8x Alphas any longer - you should be using the 3.00.xx releases from this thread:http://www.3d-coat.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2683 I was doing that myself for a while... -Will Yep yep! What Will said. You'll find these builds do not have this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jimstein Posted June 14, 2009 Member Share Posted June 14, 2009 I could not get the 3.00.05 to working on my machine so I could not confirm if this is still issues in the final but as it is important to me I feel I have to put it out there as perhaps the last bug report on ALPHA-87. There is a big difference between voxel-merging in geometry from the topology versus directly in from .obj file. The positioning is totally different. Importing geometry in toplogy will regard the pivot point from the model. Mergin in different parts of a model into voxel layers from the topology will place the geometry in the right location in space. If one merge .obj directly into a voxel layer it places the pivot point in the center of the geometry, and importing different part of a mesh this why will have the geometry overlap and one will manually have to compensate for this with tedious translations. Also. Merging geometry from .obj directly also imports everything in that file into the same layer it would be much nicer if every sub mesh in the.obj was imported into separate layers automatically so before importing today one have to split the sub mesh into separate .obj files in some other 3d app and import them independently from each outer through the topology path described above very tedious and boring labor this is. I hope the workflow will be improved in the final release. See you in version 3... I will get it after returning from my vecation Sheers! PS. One more bug is that my app craches if I save the mesh in OpenGL with some of the advanced shaders and then try to open it up in DX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member e214 Posted June 14, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted June 14, 2009 Hi Jim Latest version is 3.00.07. Maybe first try out the latest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jimstein Posted June 14, 2009 Member Share Posted June 14, 2009 Hi JimLatest version is 3.00.07. Maybe first try out the latest. Oki, I tried it in 3.00.07 (demo mode as it is not remembering my old serial even if I get a confirmation it was approved it hangs, and asks for the serial on every restart... strange). The workflow problem above is still there. The shader problem is gone though. I Ill see if I can post this topic in a more appropriate thread as this tread probably should be closed down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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