Advanced Member splodge Posted January 14, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted January 14, 2009 People generally retopo becuase they want the topology to flow with the model's form, for purposes like animation, adding more details or optimizing for a games model. I assume the automatic quadrangulation will not flow with the models geometry, so I can't see under what circumstance it will be useful, Unless it was possible to set guides to how it Quadrulates. Or an I'm missing something? Quadrangulation is great for the folks that want to make static models quickly and aren't too concerned about flow. Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1412-3d-coat-30-alpha/page/149/#findComment-13600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Shpagin Posted January 14, 2009 Author Share Posted January 14, 2009 OSX ALPHA 49! Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1412-3d-coat-30-alpha/page/149/#findComment-13601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Shpagin Posted January 14, 2009 Author Share Posted January 14, 2009 oh no there is a bug where if I quadralate a voxel during one session, then close the program and later on use it again to quadrangulate a different voxel, that the program gets confused and then loads the old retop'd mesh and displays it without actually retop'ing the new voxel. What files do I have to send you or do you want screenshotsthanks! Excuse, not understood. At first - screenshot, if not enough I will ask 3B file. Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1412-3d-coat-30-alpha/page/149/#findComment-13602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member splodge Posted January 14, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted January 14, 2009 Quadrangulate and Paint still crashes. I'm a little confused as to what steps to take in order to paint on an object. I've managed to use 'Merge raw patch' to enable painting on an object. But for some reason the object seems deformed slightly. You can test this by quadrangulating a sphere and then select 'Merge raw patch' before going into painting mode. The 'Merge into scene' option seems to preserve the shape of an object and yet I can't paint on the object in painting mode. Yet specular and depth (normal map) works fine. Just no paint. So yeah, going from voxel sculpting to painting is terribly confusing at the moment. This is me right now: ----> ps - The e menu is awesome. Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1412-3d-coat-30-alpha/page/149/#findComment-13608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member PoopaScoop Posted January 14, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted January 14, 2009 I think you can use this for animation. I really do. And Andrew is likely to want to improve upon it over time. Of course you'll probably want to edit it afterwards. But who knows he may implement some tools (ie control points) that help you help the program do it just the way you like it. Like forinstanceif you can like tag a part of the mesh to tell it that, "this is a finger so retopo it like a cylinder" maybe you can then paint the area that you think is going to be a joint or, "this is the head, so I want you to make a circle around anything that resembles an oriface" or something like that My point exactly. If the user had some manor of control in the future, it could be used for creating game and animation models etc. And not just stills. When people say they use it to create stills, your talking about quickly hacking a pose together from a lower model, right? Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1412-3d-coat-30-alpha/page/149/#findComment-13609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Shpagin Posted January 14, 2009 Author Share Posted January 14, 2009 Quadrangulate and Paint still crashes.I'm a little confused as to what steps to take in order to paint on an object. I've managed to use 'Merge raw patch' to enable painting on an object. But for some reason the object seems deformed slightly. You can test this by quadrangulating a sphere and then select 'Merge raw patch' before going into painting mode. The 'Merge into scene' option seems to preserve the shape of an object and yet I can't paint on the object in painting mode. Yet specular and depth (normal map) works fine. Just no paint. So yeah, going from voxel sculpting to painting is terribly confusing at the moment. This is me right now: ----> ps - The e menu is awesome. To be able to paint go to layers list and select layer1. Now layer0 stays selected. It is not convenient and I will change it. So, quadrangulate->merge->select layer 0 If you want, you can send me ( support@3d-coat.com ) a model and I will check why it crashes while "Quadrangulate and paint" Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1412-3d-coat-30-alpha/page/149/#findComment-13610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member splodge Posted January 14, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted January 14, 2009 To be able to paint go to layers list and select layer1. Now layer0 stays selected. It is not convenient and I will change it.So, quadrangulate->merge->select layer 0 If you want, you can send me ( support@3d-coat.com ) a model and I will check why it crashes while "Quadrangulate and paint" Oooh! So that's how it works!. I think my problem was that I'm just not familiar with 3D Coat's painting tools and so I didn't think to look at the layers. It's the voxels that originally brought me to 3D Coat. The 'Quadrangulate and Paint' option will crash with any object. I'm gonna go and get full of paint now. Thanks, Andrew!. Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1412-3d-coat-30-alpha/page/149/#findComment-13611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Maximus3D Posted January 14, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted January 14, 2009 I got to test the new quadrangulation tool last night and i have to say i'm impressed! great job on that one Andrew but will it work with imported highpoly models too or only voxelsculpted models ? What could be added to the quadrangilation thingy is to give the user the ability to paint in "poles" so that you a circular type quadrangilation pattern around areas like elbows, knees, eyesockets, mouths, ears and similar areas where edgeloops go in circular or elliptical loops around a specific area. And perhaps this quadrangulation tool should be moved out of the place where it is now and become a separate tool or a menu thing. / Magnus Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1412-3d-coat-30-alpha/page/149/#findComment-13612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Shpagin Posted January 14, 2009 Author Share Posted January 14, 2009 I got to test the new quadrangulation tool last night and i have to say i'm impressed! great job on that one Andrew but will it work with imported highpoly models too or only voxelsculpted models ?/ Magnus You can drop hp mesh in voxel sculpt tool. Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1412-3d-coat-30-alpha/page/149/#findComment-13615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member TOXE Posted January 14, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted January 14, 2009 OSX ALPHA 49! ù WOW!!! Why i havent received the mail?! It's not important, go to download!!! Thanks -TOXE Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1412-3d-coat-30-alpha/page/149/#findComment-13621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member NinjaTaco Posted January 14, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted January 14, 2009 A really anoying glitch I've noticed when using smooth (shift) or thaw (ctrl) is that the cursor gets stuck on a particular part of the mesh and just continues to smooth or melt away at the mesh even while I am pointing at some other part of the mesh. Even if I am no longer clicking LMB it still continues with the operation. It seems to happen frequently with thaw when I have grow on pen motion checked off. But it happens either way. I'm using non cuda version. Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1412-3d-coat-30-alpha/page/149/#findComment-13623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member TOXE Posted January 14, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted January 14, 2009 ANdrew, quadrangulation works really fine! COnvert to polygons it's still broken on complex object. -TOXE Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1412-3d-coat-30-alpha/page/149/#findComment-13625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member kay_Eva Posted January 14, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted January 14, 2009 Yes I love 3d Coat. Thank you Andrew for making this software! Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1412-3d-coat-30-alpha/page/149/#findComment-13628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member stevecullum Posted January 14, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted January 14, 2009 Does anyone know why I see this error when trying to run the DX version of 3D Coat? Its used to work before, but now... Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1412-3d-coat-30-alpha/page/149/#findComment-13631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member NinjaTaco Posted January 14, 2009 Advanced Member Share Posted January 14, 2009 Does anyone know why I see this error when trying to run the DX version of 3D Coat? Its used to work before, but now... I've been getting that for along time. The DX version hasn't worked for me since a38 or a39. Not sure which. Link to comment https://3dcoat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1412-3d-coat-30-alpha/page/149/#findComment-13632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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