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This is the result of the texture model - 3DC Renders

Hi Carlosan, Thank you very much for the information and for the feedback. The funny thing is it was the one thing that I omitted from the workflow.  I was already able to re-import the newly updated UV'd mesh from 3DCoat and reassign the polygroups by: Auto Groups by UV ( it evens retains the original islands - well at least on the object ) Step 8 - import new UV'd mesh from 3DC into ZBrush - Auto Groups by UV ( this now becomes my new base mesh ) ------------------------------ It was this information I needed because now it confirms I am not doing anything wrong. "ZB vs 3DC polycount differs because both programs adds metadata to obj file format." "Group faces let to assign user-defined editing regions that can be used in Modeling and Sculpt mode, but since 3dcoat uses different mesh types in sculpt room and modeling/retopo room, that is not possible as I understand it." ------------------------------ I can get the current workflow working but I just need to jump through a couple of additional hoops to get it to work, when originally all I was trying to do is just update UV's. When in the past ( quite a while back ) I didn't have to worry about it. ------------------------------ In this Video below, at around the 6 min mark, Ian shows a way to create PolyGroups inside of 3DC: -------------------------------- "Will be nice if you ask to add it as feature request at support@3dcoat.com" Certainly....all I would ask for is an ability to import meshes exported from ZBrush, while maintaining it's polygroups structure without 3DC splitting the mesh, adding extra or altering the vertices order to maintain the original base configuration of the original mesh.  -------------------------------- Thanks again for the feedback and info. Cheers Ady 

I see please ask for feature request at support3dcoat.com Thanks

Hi, Thanks for the reply, I do use the plane option sometimes but mainly for keeping things on the same plane. what I was looking for is to be able to move the lasso but also to constrain its movement along an axis similar to in photoshop when you hold the shift key and it moves the brush only in one direction. I suppose you could do this with the 2d grid and snapping but that would mean switching that on and off each time I want to do that type of cut

I found this, it is useful info ? If want to keep polygroups while importing and exporting you can create a duplicated version of the desired polygrouped Subtool and create UV with UVMaster. Enable polygroups will create separate island for each polygroup. So if you want the polygroups back in the imported mesh from other program you can copy from the subtool you have correctly polygrouped and then paste in the new imported. Then Go to Polygroups And press Auto Group with U ZB vs 3DC polycount differs because both programs adds metadata to obj file format. If you open both files on notepad+ (as example) can see the headers differ: On both files, the face location looks similar When I export, I use this set ON I was thinking one way... duplicate the mesh with pgroups on ZB, make UVs on 3DC, export/import and on ZB transfer UV from one mesh to the original. 3DC lacks of ID maps, or polygroups on ZB, FaceSets on Blender.  Group faces let to assign user-defined editing regions that can be used in Modeling and Sculpt mode, but since 3dcoat uses different mesh types in sculpt room and modeling/retopo room, that is not possible as I understand it. Will be nice if you ask to add it as feature request at support@3dcoat.com

Have you done a fresh install? Or did you install the new version over the previous one? When you have a crash, did you send the crash report?

nope, I was trying latest versions few days ago, crashes still happening for me

Hi, I just want to add a little more to this thread about the workflow. Step 1 - Created a simple mesh in ZBrush, created Polygroups to define region and did a quick and dirty UV Map inside of ZBrush. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Step 2 - Exported from ZBrush as (obj) with SubGroups and imported into 3DCoat (via Per Pixel Painting) - Lock Normals Note: The first intention is to use 3DCoat solely to update and improve the base mesh's UV layout. Which works well except for one major issue. The exported base mesh now has a different vertices count. This is caused by the way 3Dcoat interprets the exported mesh's polygroups as separate meshes. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Step 3 - Re-Exported from ZBrush as (obj) with No SubGroups and imported into 3DCoat (via Per Pixel Painting) - Lock Normals Note: this works, no additional vertices in the exported mesh but via this method lose the polygroups which comes in really come in handy for texturing and for managing the mesh inside of DAZ Studio. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Step 4 - Import the ZBrush Mesh with Polygroups into DAZStudio first, create surfaces from selected faces (using polygroups) - Export mesh from DAZ with ( use Surface Names )  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Step 5 - Import into 3DCoat ( this presents an issue though as it splits up the UV ) - as attached Step 5 - issue. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Step 6 - Select isolated islands, [move selected islands to another UV-set] clean up UV + [apply uv-set] + [delete unused UV Sets] + Save File + Export Mesh from 3DCoat with [use Source Positions] Note: this simple saved 3DCoat file is 49.3 MB ( the original base mesh is only 640 KB )  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Step 7 - Imported the Exported Mesh from 3DCoat into DAZ - gives me desired results ( Updated UV and Polygroups ) but the newly imported mesh Vertices (or order) does not match the original base exported from ZBrush. This is confirmed because I can not make morphs for the new mesh based off the original mesh. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So questions.... 1. Can anyone see if there is a way that might be faster of if there is anything I am doing wrong. 2. Where along this workflow is the vertices order changing. ( I never used to have this issue with earlier version of 3DCoat ) 3. Why are 3Dcoats saved file so large? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------  

Hello Carlosan. I think the first video is the closest to what I'm looking for. I'll take a closer look and try out what is shown there. Many thanks and best regards, ModderLS22.  

@Elemeno @Mihu83  Sorry but I cant replicate, are graphics drivers uptodate ?

Hi, version 2024.19 - all brushes are off center, kinda like badly calibrated tablet. In version 2024.18 all works fine. Also, something that is pretty frustrating with something like Vox Layer tool and many other that include shape selection/masking - very often vox layer isn't created and selection disappears, after hitting CTRL + Z selection shows up, but only partially in glitched form and it won't work anyways. It need to be Deselected and draw again... pretty damn annoying thing, that is causing a lot of time waste... Don't remember when was the first time I've noticed it, but this behaviour is there for quite some time.

For people watching this. While this obviously works I want to suggest a more flexible workflow for simple parts like this. Vox Hide is like cut off, only with ability to have volume reappear which gives you insane flexibility. Sketch is a simple but clean tool to create basic shapes at the start.

https://fabiomontorzi.gumroad.com/l/tutorial3Dcharacters TUTORIAL I decided to record this tutorial after finally developing an efficient workflow to build 3D characters for concept art. I've always struggled with this because it took so long. I tried different approaches using various software, but I didn't want to rely on clothing simulation programs or software to create characters by adjusting parameters or marketplaces where I have to search and buy clothes and accessories.

On Carve tool, try activating "On Plane" Hope this help

When I use the carve brush or sphere brush in voxel mode I usually use a rectangle or circle lasso. With the shape I cut or add to the voxel geometry. I can press the spacebar to move the shape around but I cant lock it on an axis. Sometimes I just want to move directly up or at an angle that makes it match the previous cuts position but I cant constrain the axis. Also if I press a number key to create duplicate shapes and want them in a line there isnt a way to constrain to an axis, so its a bit of guess work to get it perfect. Am I missing a keyboard shortcut here?   Thanks for any help with this.