3DCoat 2024 development thread

[Andrew Shpagin]

7 hours ago, Silas Merlin said:

.40 automap freezes 3d-Coat on the Angel of Peace mesh.

Where is the "Join clusters tool." located ?

I will test on Angel. I used it on preliminary tests (successfully), but not on final build. I will check again.

[Andrew Shpagin]

And everyone who participates this thread actively and regularly may push me and ask for free license support extension as soon as need) 

Just drop me letter to andrewshpgin@gmail.com. 

I appreciate everyone's great help!

[Andrew Shpagin]

And this is my result with Angel (took 7-8 min)

 

 

[Silas Merlin]

46 minutes ago, Andrew Shpagin said:

I will test on Angel. I used it on preliminary tests (successfully), but not on final build. I will check again.

Tool appears after doing Windows>Reset this page to default.
My guess is that anyone who uses stored workspace like I do, don't see new tools ?

[Silas Merlin]

43 minutes ago, Andrew Shpagin said:

And this is my result with Angel (took 7-8 min)

 

 

Is the work on automap finished ?
I think there are still problems. I think you are trying to create bigger islands ? I think yes very small islands are to be avoided most of the time, but those long thin islands are a problem, and also the star-shaped islands.
I was made to understand that it is best to aim for convex islands, because when you decimate to create LODs, concave shapes will end up self intersecting.

here is an example problematic island on the angel

what I mean by "star shaped"

Also I think it would be good to try to find straighter paths for seams

 

There are still isolated triangles

 

 

[Silas Merlin]

how about an "automatic clusters" method, which people then refine using the new join clusters tool ? This ought to tend towards more convex islands ?

[Silas Merlin]

I think islands should never have holes in them (donuts ?)
 

[Ctc_nick]

Hello!

The Modelling Room

I had successful test with the 3d curve snapping in conjunction with the Swan Surface Tool! 

But now the curve snapping is loosing its track like before. I cant get it back to work by restart 3dcoat or a new file. Could you check that?

Snap to curve and Curve point is turned on.

 

-There should generally be an option to turn of the automatic non manifold deletion of faces. It causes uneccesary holes when stiching faces together and no possibility to merge edges by hand.

-If you make a new polygroup, and add polygons snapping to border edges of another polygroup, 3dcoat tries to merge them. There is no way of having separate objects touching at one vertex/edge/face. This is bad because you cant snap to existing edges if you want to build other parts with matching edges.

It would be a great basic helper if there would be snap-able Null Object/Emptys for reference, and alignment for (PolyVertices and CurveVertices, Objects).

It would be fantastic if polygons could snap to curves with Add/Split, Quads, Points to Poly tool.

 

All the best!

Edited August 15, 2022 by Ctc_nick

[Elemeno]

i went from voxels to suface and this happened...

i managed to fix easy though by remeshing but could be some sort of conversion bug?

[Gorbatovsky]

15 hours ago, Ctc_nick said:

But now the curve snapping is loosing its track like before.

Explain in more detail, please.

[Elemeno]

using the anchored brush to drag out a few details seems to be off,

it works but disappears after you get to a certain width

[Elemeno]

1 hour ago, Elemeno said:

using the anchored brush to drag out a few details seems to be off,

it works but disappears after you get to a certain width

it also affects the opposite side, actually causing more affect than the affected area

[Elemeno]

for it to actually work you have to set depth to 850% or the tool disappears

[Ctc_nick]

2 hours ago, Gorbatovsky said:

Explain in more detail, please.

@Gorbatovsky

This is 0.41

have a look:

All the best!

Edited August 15, 2022 by Ctc_nick

[Elemeno]

All brushes just sculpting in general drags the backface forward .. and im not sure if its just mine or everyones .. but i imported from blender into a surface mode sculpt....  But everytime i went to sculpt detail it was destroying the mesh , dragging the backfaces forward

[Tubor]

Apply again, I replied before, when the process is working at the percentage, switch to other software task interface under Windows, the 3Dcoat process will be stuck, and the progress percentage cannot be displayed normally (the software is indeed working, but not responding) Calculated percentage does not display properly. Hope to get normal feedback, at least normal. Show progress percentage. Better for user experience

[Ctc_nick]

@Gorbatovsky

C'mon guys, let's go curve snapping!

I know you can do it!  

[Gorbatovsky]

53 minutes ago, Ctc_nick said:

@Gorbatovsky

C'mon guys, let's go curve snapping!

I know you can do it!  

@Andrew Shpagin Help me.

[Silas Merlin]

Could Sphere tool please be made to remember settings from session to session ? (Draw from first point, profile...)

 

[Henry Townshend]

On 7/31/2022 at 5:38 PM, Gorbatovsky said:

Modified Cap Tool. If hold Ctrl, the Center vertex is positioned at the Center Point

@Gorbatovsky At least for me in .41, this still does not seem to work.

Edited August 18, 2022 by Hardev

[Gorbatovsky]

2 hours ago, Hardev said:

At least for me in .41, this still does not seem to work.

Weird, it works for me.
Let's call Andrew for help

[Elemeno]

2 hours ago, Gorbatovsky said:

Weird, it works for me.
Let's call Andrew for help

works for me too, the ui looks like i wouldnt but when you click it sets to the middle perfectly

[Henry Townshend]

3 hours ago, Elemeno said:

works for me too, the ui looks like i wouldnt but when you click it sets to the middle perfectly

You are right. It indeed works. I guess what confused me was that with uneven loop edge ring sides, it offsets the center accordingly:
 

 

But great! Thank you and thanks again @Gorbatovsky!

[Henry Townshend]

7 hours ago, Gorbatovsky said:

Weird, it works for me.
Let's call Andrew for help

Ok, I figured it out. It does not work in all cases. It only works when auto snapping is turned off:

 

Of course you most of the time wanna have this turned on during retopo. @Gorbatovsky Could this be an oversight? Or am I misunderstanding something?

[Elemeno]

2 hours ago, Hardev said:

You are right. It indeed works. I guess what confused me was that with uneven loop edge ring sides, it offsets the center accordingly:
 

But great! Thank you and thanks again @Gorbatovsky!

where this circle is misshapen it takes into account the average an then where to place the center

[Gorbatovsky]

26 minutes ago, Hardev said:

Could this be an oversight? Or am I misunderstanding something?

I already forgot why I did it.
Someone asked.
Probably need to add an option for this tool.

[Elemeno]

did post something i thought was a bug but it got fixed...

Edited August 19, 2022 by Elemeno
fixed already

[jene]

hello,

probably this is a bug or old setting .  the version is 2022v39

I find a message when I use Bas-Relief.  "The modeling operations require a special license.You may buy it on the 3D-Coat's official site"

but I am using 3D-coat 2022 full version license.  and I can not find "special license" on official web site.

I guess this is old generation setting.  

or, if there is "special license" on official web site,  I want to know where that is.

 

Mr.Andrew, all Pilgway team. Thank you for your development.

Edited August 19, 2022 by jene

[Ctc_nick]

Hi!

Duplicated Curves get the same Names.

Please turn off auto extension/connection for new curves (then becoming one curve). Very often wrong curves and even wrong sides of a curve are connected. This is very possible if more then 2 curves end at the same coordinates.

Greetings!

 

 

[lilly 009]

I downloaded trial version. i can't edit anything. I start to edit my 3d scan to cleanup, it freezes a lot. my computer is the average one, 8g ram+150g memory.

but wheen i use zbrush or blender i don't have aany problems. what should i do?