3DCoat 2024 development thread

[Gorbatovsky]

2 hours ago, Tubor said:

The model file has been uploaded and can be tested

[SERGYI]

On 11/29/2021 at 1:53 AM, animk said:

Update: I replaced the "LinuxLibs" folder with the one from 2021.31, now it works.

New build "3DCoat 2021.71" for Linux should run with its own "LinuxLibs" (3 files). Please check that:
https://pilgway.com/~sergyi/links-Linux.html

[jimhatama]

sphere line tool bugged. I dont get it, why old tools that were working well many years got broken? this is so frustrating

 

[Andrew Shpagin]

17 hours ago, Tubor said:

Carlosan Andrew Shpagin  digman

The model file has been uploaded and can be tested

ps：At that time, I tried to increase the density of the rhizome selection area, and the result was slightly better, but it was still not completely effective. If the number of topological grids increases, the software will stop working. In addition, the "instant mesh" has been tested. The speed and quality are better than the quality of automatic topology, but the rhizome head still can not give the correct result. . Looking forward to your test

Ginseng topology.zip 75.36 MB · 1 download

Thanks for file. Understood the reason, fixed, now getting this with "Voxelize" option:

[Andrew Shpagin]

2 hours ago, jimhatama said:

sphere line tool bugged. I dont get it, why old tools that were working well many years got broken? this is so frustrating

 

I tried sphere + lines mode, on first glance looks like all is OK there. Please describe in words what exactly is wrong.

[milhouzz]

1 hour ago, Andrew Shpagin said:

I tried sphere + lines mode, on first glance looks like all is OK there. Please describe in words what exactly is wrong.

i got the same issue

[digman]

2 hours ago, Andrew Shpagin said:

Thanks for file. Understood the reason, fixed, now getting this with "Voxelize" option:

Since Andrew found a problem and fixed it, I will await a new build to test the file.

[Евгений]

2 hours ago, Andrew Shpagin said:

Я попробовал режим сфера + линии, на первый взгляд кажется, что там все в порядке. Пожалуйста, опишите словами, что именно не так.

Он имеет ввиду скорее всего  , что если объекты на разных слоях , то они не привязываются  .   

Edited December 1, 2021 by Евгений

[Yousung]

4 hours ago, Andrew Shpagin said:

I tried sphere + lines mode, on first glance looks like all is OK there. Please describe in words what exactly is wrong.

 

The Sphere tool works differently between V4 and 2021 versions.

[animk]

11 hours ago, SERGYI said:

New build "3DCoat 2021.71" for Linux should run with its own "LinuxLibs" (3 files). Please check that:
https://pilgway.com/~sergyi/links-Linux.html

Nice!  It works.

[Tubor]

Gorbatovsky Andrew Shpagin digman

Thank you very much, mine also succeeded, thanks again

PS：72 version does not require any additional settings, the effect is almost perfect

Edited December 2, 2021 by Tubor

[jimhatama]

11 hours ago, Andrew Shpagin said:

I tried sphere + lines mode, on first glance looks like all is OK there. Please describe in words what exactly is wrong.

Points of sphere tool get offseted.  So place where you actually click dont  match with sphere line position.

[jimhatama]

sphere tool bugged even if you use curve. basically there is no way to add lines beetween meshes now it is completley broken.

[Silas Merlin]

Re: Autopo @Andrew Shpagin

To me the mesh has to be prepared thoroughly by the user before autopo.

I think you are trying to do that automatically in the autopo dialogue by offering "voxelization" option.
However, I believe that is not enough to ensure that problems are fixed.
could you try this :
-voxelize
-increase voxel resolution
-fill voids
-turn to surface
-objectify (and delete small parts)
-close holes

This should cover many possible issues, I think.

[milhouzz]

hey quick question, would it be possible to add the brush rotation option inside the tool parameter brush parameters? just having it there directly would be really great.

also maybe having a random flip x and y axis for the brush in the jitter, a bit like photoshop have, its really great to get some randomness when you sculpt details or ust 2d paint.

thanks

[sinise]

Sphere brush with line stroke doesn´t work at all in new release (v2021.73)

[jimhatama]

Sphere tool not only not fixed it is actually even more bugged now  .73

also axis flicker  on screen when new dot placed. Red curve also shows that it is still broken with curves

 

also sphere tool  should use veiew plane for line mode, right now it seems to use vertex normals or totally random when placed on empty spots

Edited December 3, 2021 by jimhatama

[Tubor]

There still seem to be some problems with the sphere tool

Edited December 3, 2021 by Tubor

[Tubor]

A UI problem of drawing the room: the old version will have obvious color hints for the selected tools, but the new version does not. It is difficult to distinguish the current tools.

[Tubor]

Eraser problem for paint room: After erasing the corresponding area, a patchy residue will appear in the intersecting area after repeated erasing.

 

[jimhatama]

Discovered rather serious bug with flat brushes. Somehow alpha or normal calculations are wrong on thin surfaces. Making it impossibe to use flat tools on them

[jimhatama]

It doing this instead of flattetning 

[jimhatama]

How it is supposed to work from 4.9 and other programms. 

Can we at least add this legacy flattening brush from 4.9? while issues with new brush are sorted? I really need to get projects done and all this really slows it down 

Thats actually not only for thin surfaces but all uneven surfaces. Usually u want to flatten uneven surfaces from sculpt, but 2021 coat actually make it worse instead of flattening

Edited December 3, 2021 by jimhatama

[Carlosan]

@jimhatama Flat Polish is working fine ?

[storm36969]

I found 2 HUGE Problems..  Inside the Modeling Room.  

 

#1.) There is NO Way to get Rid of reference images other than to hide them, we need a way to delete them

 

#2.) The reason you can NOT Load hotkeys is that it is looking for a file with the extension hotkeys, the extensions in 2021 are *.xml now.

        This needs to be fixed badly, I'm unable to try loading other hotkey files because of this.

 

#3.) Where are our theme files for the interface?

 

Please correct these simple issues, it's killing me that I am really unable to customize it right.  I would love to have the modeling room setup after silo3D's Hotkeys.

 

Thanks,

 

Ken Cornett

 

Edited December 3, 2021 by storm36969
I solved the preview pane reference images not showing up, it was off in file explorer.

[milhouzz]

the rotate along stroke doesn't seems to work properly anymore, i remember it working fine when doing a rotation the the alphas

thanks

[jimhatama]

6 hours ago, Carlosan said:

@jimhatama Flat Polish is working fine ?

all flat brushes have above bug. try flattening uneven thin surface and then compare to 4.9 version or zbrush or even blender. 

Edited December 4, 2021 by jimhatama

[Andrew Shpagin]

23 hours ago, jimhatama said:

Sphere tool not only not fixed it is actually even more bugged now  .73

also axis flicker  on screen when new dot placed. Red curve also shows that it is still broken with curves

 

also sphere tool  should use veiew plane for line mode, right now it seems to use vertex normals or totally random when placed on empty spots

I am trying to reproduce it in 73/74 but no luck. I placed 2 spheres in the same volume, chosen lines mode, clickid on one, then on second and vice versa. All worrks as expected. The one thing I noticed - curve & sphere works incorrectly (int plane, not in space), I will corect it.

Please help, maybe someone has ideas whe exactly it happens? Does anyone able to reproduce?

[Andrew Shpagin]

Ok, found the reason. It happens if the volume transformed.

[Silas Merlin]

32 minutes ago, Andrew Shpagin said:

I am trying to reproduce it in 73/74 but no luck. I placed 2 spheres in the same volume, chosen lines mode, clickid on one, then on second and vice versa. All worrks as expected. The one thing I noticed - curve & sphere works incorrectly (int plane, not in space), I will corect it.

Please help, maybe someone has ideas whe exactly it happens? Does anyone able to reproduce?

I saw it on .72 but can't reproduce it in .74 (all fixed now except for curve (the green one) which works on plane from first point).