3DCoat 2024 development thread

[Carlosan]

Are you testing latest version 2021.70 ?

Can share your computer specs ?

[Koray]

I shared everything with you many times before Carlos. You are the only one who is trying to help.

And today I thought maybe I was too hard on the developers so I decided to give it another go;

then ofcourse around 3 min into the sculpt, the Absolute brush crashed a 3mil voxel test 

attached the crash screen grab.

[Carlosan]

Yes, your computer specs are enough.

Have you previously uninstalled the previous version and deleted the related folders in program files and documents before installing the new one ? (or rename first documents/3DCoat-2021 if need to backup personal stuff)

is it installed on disk C:/ ?

Sorry, I don't know how to help you, I don't have crash reports when sculpting 3 million poly in voxel mode.

Have you sent mail requesting support directly to andrewshpagin@gmail.com ?

[Koray]

2 minutes ago, Carlosan said:

Yes, your computer specs are enough.

Have you previously uninstalled the previous version and deleted the related folders in program files and documents before installing the new one ? (or rename first documents/3DCoat-2021 if need to backup personal stuff)

is it installed on disk C:/ ?

Sorry, I don't know how to help you, I don't have crash reports when sculpting 3 million poly in voxel mode.

Have you sent mail requesting support directly to andrewshpagin@gmail.com ?

When 2021 was released I installed uninstalled every version for a while trying to help. On C drive ofcourse. I did delete the folders at times. I have the 4.9.05 installer still saved in a do not delete folder :D. My registry is probably full of friggin 3dc versions. Since Andrew is the main guy I didnt want to bother him. I come here everyday and see people discuss rocket science no the main basic problems. I check youtube daily for updated proper tutorials. Waiting for Anton to make more advanced tutorails. He is covering the basics at the moment. 

I am also aware of the fact that voxels are though to work with.

So if you are asking me to format the C drive and only install windows, wacom and 3dCoat I can for sure. But then if anything goes wrong with 3dc again I reserve the right to go berserk all over the internet 

[Carlosan]

  @Koray

On 11/20/2021 at 1:08 PM, Andrew Shpagin said:

Thanks for reporting, I very hope fo finish the current stage (auto-retopo) asap and the get back to fixing problems. I will look this problem as well.

 

[Tubor]

Export the selected model in the sculpture room, sometimes it takes effect, sometimes it is exported as an empty file. When exporting an empty file, it will not be prompted to extract the number of faces. Please check what this is.

[milhouzz]

hey guys,

I was wondering if 3d coat could have a masking system (same as blender and zb). I guess same as the pose tool but for masking and be able to use any tools with it.

thanks!

[sprayer]

6 minutes ago, milhouzz said:

hey guys,

I was wondering if 3d coat could have a masking system (same as blender and zb). I guess same as the pose tool but for masking and be able to use any tools with it.

thanks!

Freeze isn't enough? 

 

[milhouzz]

ah yeah but doesn t seems to work in voxel tho, would be great

[milhouzz]

oh ok it actually works but only if you stay with clay/draw tools

[cookepuss]

4 hours ago, sprayer said:

Freeze isn't enough? 

 

You actually illustrated what the problem is.

You're 100% right Freeze is probably exactly what milhouzz is looking for. However, the name itself is just, well, terrible. Intuitively, most people look and reach for a tool specifically named Mask. It's common, basic terminology that's been used in ZBrush, Photoshop, and elsewhere for nearly 2 decades.

I'm sure that there's a very well reasoned out internal logic in naming it Freeze. However, when it's functionally equivalent to what users want/expect from a Mask tool, it's a frustratingly counter-intuitive naming convention. So, if you're a n00b and you're looking for Mask, posts like milhouzz's get created.

3DCoat has always danced to the beat of it's own drum. Y'all think and do things a little different. Respect. Still, it's something like this - opting to call basic Mask functionality Freeze instead - that SO many non-3DCoat users see the app as weird, quirky, or just plain clunky.

It's fine to dance to your own beat, but at least stay on the dance floor when people expect you to. Freeze functionality should just be named Mask. Even if it has some added perks beyond stock masking tools, it is EXACTLY what users are looking for when they fail to find Mask in  their menu or tool palette.

Edited November 22, 2021 by cookepuss

[sprayer]

3 hours ago, milhouzz said:

oh ok it actually works but only if you stay with clay/draw tools

maybe if you describe what you trying to do we will help, maybe you trying to make it wrong way. But better create another topic for that.

 

@cookepuss Yes, some names in 3dcoat not very intuitive, i am also suggested to rename some windows, but i think that's not big problem, all software have own way). For example in affinity photo there is also some tools have own name and mask works just different compare to photoshop and you have to google how it works. 

[milhouzz]

2 hours ago, sprayer said:

maybe if you describe what you trying to do we will help, maybe you trying to make it wrong way. But better create another topic for that.

 

@cookepuss Yes, some names in 3dcoat not very intuitive, i am also suggested to rename some windows, but i think that's not big problem, all software have own way). For example in affinity photo there is also some tools have own name and mask works just different compare to photoshop and you have to google how it works. 

just trying to use it the same way i use it in blender or zb, just as a basic mask where i can apply any tool. I never tried to use it in 3d coat before but was just looking into it see if it was there as its a very common feature when modelling

[SERGYI]

On 11/11/2021 at 3:43 PM, Allabulle said:

Any progress yet?

"3DCoat 2021.70" for Linux has been uploaded. The links to the latest "3DCoat 2021" for Linux will be always here:
https://pilgway.com/~sergyi/links-Linux.html

[Sorn]

1 hour ago, SERGYI said:

"3DCoat 2021.70" for Linux has been uploaded. The links to the latest "3DCoat 2021" for Linux will be always here:
https://pilgway.com/~sergyi/links-Linux.html

Thank you so much!